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I wonder if it is something US specific or not. The very concept of 'popularity' is completely foreign to my experience. I don't think there was a thing such a

I wonder if it is something US specific or not. The very concept of 'popularity' is completely foreign to my experience. I don't think there was a thing such as a popular kid when I was at school or high school. I personally enjoyed a lot going to school because I could spend time with my friends. I have never witnessed any violence apart from fights form time to time between two malse wanting to show who the strongest was. I was not in a privileged school.

chaosite 6y ago
it's not just a US specific thing, it's a generation specific thing. The scenarios described in the GP link is a very late 70s-80s (Gen X) thing. 90s and early 00s high-schoolers had somewhat different experiences, but they know the trope since that's what was in movies. Schools today have a different concept of a "pecking order" - it's not that nerds aren't at the bottom anymore, it's that the whole concept changed.
- pnutjam 6y ago
  Physical violence is down, it's moved to emotional and psychological attacks, which can be just as bad or worse. This is just judging from my own experience, and my kids have a very different set of circumstances then I did.
luckylion 6y ago
I'm from Germany, and while some aspects of it might be US-specific, the concept generally isn't.
auganov 6y ago
Went to mostly private schools in America and my home country and none of them were anything like this. I've seen some violence back home but not physical. Alcohol, drugs, general bad behavior etc were a much bigger problem and definitely the worst at one public school I briefly went to. In every school I'd say like people hung out with like people. So the "popularity" would be limited to that in-group. Most of people who PG would call "nerds" had a clique of their own as far as I could tell. Some people might have been broadly disliked though.
v77 6y ago
Sorry, bullshit. This is the basic human experience in any social group. I'm not American either and this is a universal experience.

chaosite 6y ago

it's not just a US specific thing, it's a generation specific thing. The scenarios described in the GP link is a very late 70s-80s (Gen X) thing. 90s and early 00s high-schoolers had somewhat different experiences, but they know the trope since that's what was in movies. Schools today have a different concept of a "pecking order" - it's not that nerds aren't at the bottom anymore, it's that the whole concept changed.

pnutjam 6y ago
Physical violence is down, it's moved to emotional and psychological attacks, which can be just as bad or worse. This is just judging from my own experience, and my kids have a very different set of circumstances then I did.

luckylion 6y ago

I'm from Germany, and while some aspects of it might be US-specific, the concept generally isn't.

auganov 6y ago

Went to mostly private schools in America and my home country and none of them were anything like this. I've seen some violence back home but not physical. Alcohol, drugs, general bad behavior etc were a much bigger problem and definitely the worst at one public school I briefly went to. In every school I'd say like people hung out with like people. So the "popularity" would be limited to that in-group. Most of people who PG would call "nerds" had a clique of their own as far as I could tell. Some people might have been broadly disliked though.

v77 6y ago

Sorry, bullshit. This is the basic human experience in any social group. I'm not American either and this is a universal experience.