> and a Java program that allocates 99% of stuff like crazy on GCed heap Java is too extreme with GC, not all languages are like that. In .NET it's only moder

> and a Java program that allocates 99% of stuff like crazy on GCed heap Java is too extreme with GC, not all languages are like that. In .NET it's only moderately hard to avoid GC when you want to. It has value types, real stack, and other relevant features. Here's an example of non-trivial code written in that style for performance reasons: https://github.com/Const-me/Vrmac/tree/master/VrmacVideo https://github.com/Const-me/Vrmac/tree/master/VrmacVideo