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A wise choice seeing as how the overall fatality rate is less than 0.3% See below: Infection Fatality Ratios for COVID-19 Among Noninstitutionalized Persons 1

A wise choice seeing as how the overall fatality rate is less than 0.3% See below: Infection Fatality Ratios for COVID-19 Among Noninstitutionalized Persons 12 and Older: Results of a Random-Sample Prevalence Study Sept 2020, Annals of Internal Medicine https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-5352 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-5352 People aged 40 or below have a 0.01% chance of dying. People over the age of 70 have a 1.17% chance of dying. Overall the chance of dying from the virus is 0.26%.

mattigames 6y ago
If only fatalities was the only issue at hand, but millions of people will suffer lasting damage due covid for decades to come
- logicchains 6y ago
  What research paper are you basing that on? Hundreds of millions of people will suffer lasting damage due to poverty and malnutrition resulting from the global economic effects of lockdowns: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pushes-hundreds-millions-people-toward-starvation-poverty/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pus...
  - mattigames 6y ago
    Articles: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/lifelong-lung-damage-the-serious-covid-19-complication-that-can-hit-people-in-their-20s#Whos-at-risk https://www.healthline.com/health-news/lifelong-lung-damage-...? https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247086-the-coronavirus-is-leaving-some-people-with-permanent-lung-damage/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247086-the-coronavirus... Papers: https://k4.ersnet.org/prod/v2/Front/Program/Session?e=259&session=12607 https://k4.ersnet.org/prod/v2/Front/Program/Session?e=259&se... https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/radiol.2020200843 https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/radiol.2020200843 https://www.ajronline.org/doi/pdf/10.2214/AJR.20.22969 https://www.ajronline.org/doi/pdf/10.2214/AJR.20.22969
    - nate_meurer 6y ago
      So far, there is no good evidence that sars-cov2 causes long term lung damage at higher rates than other respiratory infections. Several of your links are specifically about pulmonary fibrosis. Its a scary condition that has a zillion potential causes, including viral and bacterial infections of many different kinds, pneumonia of all kinds, environmental pollutants, medications, etc. And of course there is the dreaded idiopathic fibrosis -- that for which there is no identifiable cause. It won't be the least bit surprising if scientists discover that most cases of idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis are actually viral in origin. And again, there is currently no evidence that sars-cov2 causes pulmonary fibrosis any more often than other viral infections. That might change, and the condition is truly scary, but right now the evidence doesn't justify the scary headlines.
ozborn 6y ago
I'm a little puzzled by their methodology, it covered noninstitutionalized folks in Indiana over the age of 12, but the majority of deaths in Indiana were in nursing homes. Looks like they were just trying to do the best with the data they could get, but it's not a great estimate.

mattigames 6y ago

If only fatalities was the only issue at hand, but millions of people will suffer lasting damage due covid for decades to come

logicchains 6y ago
What research paper are you basing that on? Hundreds of millions of people will suffer lasting damage due to poverty and malnutrition resulting from the global economic effects of lockdowns: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pushes-hundreds-millions-people-toward-starvation-poverty/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pus...
- mattigames 6y ago
  Articles: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/lifelong-lung-damage-the-serious-covid-19-complication-that-can-hit-people-in-their-20s#Whos-at-risk https://www.healthline.com/health-news/lifelong-lung-damage-...? https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247086-the-coronavirus-is-leaving-some-people-with-permanent-lung-damage/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247086-the-coronavirus... Papers: https://k4.ersnet.org/prod/v2/Front/Program/Session?e=259&session=12607 https://k4.ersnet.org/prod/v2/Front/Program/Session?e=259&se... https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/radiol.2020200843 https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/radiol.2020200843 https://www.ajronline.org/doi/pdf/10.2214/AJR.20.22969 https://www.ajronline.org/doi/pdf/10.2214/AJR.20.22969
  - nate_meurer 6y ago
    So far, there is no good evidence that sars-cov2 causes long term lung damage at higher rates than other respiratory infections. Several of your links are specifically about pulmonary fibrosis. Its a scary condition that has a zillion potential causes, including viral and bacterial infections of many different kinds, pneumonia of all kinds, environmental pollutants, medications, etc. And of course there is the dreaded idiopathic fibrosis -- that for which there is no identifiable cause. It won't be the least bit surprising if scientists discover that most cases of idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis are actually viral in origin. And again, there is currently no evidence that sars-cov2 causes pulmonary fibrosis any more often than other viral infections. That might change, and the condition is truly scary, but right now the evidence doesn't justify the scary headlines.

ozborn 6y ago

I'm a little puzzled by their methodology, it covered noninstitutionalized folks in Indiana over the age of 12, but the majority of deaths in Indiana were in nursing homes. Looks like they were just trying to do the best with the data they could get, but it's not a great estimate.