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Holding our society back from what?

by blhack 6y ago

peterwwillis 6y ago
Progress. It's hard to build a society when the people in it don't have anywhere to sleep, or keep their consumer products.
- refurb 6y ago
  That’s clearly not happening in the US. Housing prices are high because so many people want to live in highly desirable areas with high paying jobs. There are plenty of less desirable places with cheap housing and ok paying jobs.
  - username90 6y ago
    Wouldn't it be better if we had more cheap dense housing near high paying jobs? Seems like it would make us progress faster, no?
    - CincinnatiMan 6y ago
      What if the high paying jobs spread out to less-dense places? Then people could get both things they want: a good job and not being on top of each other.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
    "so many people" ... no, just enough over the numbers for what's actually available to drive prices up. Alternatively, just enough with just enough money (in hand, or leverageable) to drive prices up. The whole world is not rushing to places in the US with insanely high property prices. Just enough people to keep those prices up (and maybe even still rising).
  - peterwwillis 6y ago
    Please google "affordable housing crisis united states". The first 40 or so stories paint a decent enough picture so I won't link them here. > Housing prices are high because so many people want to live in highly desirable areas with high paying jobs. Young middle class white people can't find a house in San Francisco, sure, but that's not the major problem. Most of the housing problems are in places that are not desireable, and there are a myriad of different causes. > There are plenty of less desirable places with cheap housing and ok paying jobs. Not even remotely enough to fulfill all the low income housing needs in the US. Even if there were, people wouldn't be able to go there anyway, because they don't have disposable income, and there's no "let me uproot your life with $20,000 you don't have to pay back" fairies flying around. Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing_by_country#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing_by_country#...

Holding our society back from what?

by blhack 6y ago

Holding our society back from what?

Progress. It's hard to build a society when the people in it don't have anywhere to sleep, or keep their consumer products.

refurb 6y ago
That’s clearly not happening in the US. Housing prices are high because so many people want to live in highly desirable areas with high paying jobs. There are plenty of less desirable places with cheap housing and ok paying jobs.
- username90 6y ago
  Wouldn't it be better if we had more cheap dense housing near high paying jobs? Seems like it would make us progress faster, no?
  - CincinnatiMan 6y ago
    What if the high paying jobs spread out to less-dense places? Then people could get both things they want: a good job and not being on top of each other.
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
  "so many people" ... no, just enough over the numbers for what's actually available to drive prices up. Alternatively, just enough with just enough money (in hand, or leverageable) to drive prices up. The whole world is not rushing to places in the US with insanely high property prices. Just enough people to keep those prices up (and maybe even still rising).
- peterwwillis 6y ago
  Please google "affordable housing crisis united states". The first 40 or so stories paint a decent enough picture so I won't link them here. > Housing prices are high because so many people want to live in highly desirable areas with high paying jobs. Young middle class white people can't find a house in San Francisco, sure, but that's not the major problem. Most of the housing problems are in places that are not desireable, and there are a myriad of different causes. > There are plenty of less desirable places with cheap housing and ok paying jobs. Not even remotely enough to fulfill all the low income housing needs in the US. Even if there were, people wouldn't be able to go there anyway, because they don't have disposable income, and there's no "let me uproot your life with $20,000 you don't have to pay back" fairies flying around. Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing_by_country#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_housing_by_country#...