> that's one of those "you're either with us or against us" type of deal And as the saying goes, if I'm either with you or against you, then I'm against you. I

> that's one of those "you're either with us or against us" type of deal And as the saying goes, if I'm either with you or against you, then I'm against you. It doesn't matter what your object-level goals or values are, because you have clearly stated that you care more about using those goals as a pretence to attack anyone who isn't willing to subordinate themselves to your particular movement than about actually achieving said object-level goals.