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I'm honestly not sure I understand that you're complaining there are no new features whilst saying they need to go back to simple + good + affordable. It's pret

I'm honestly not sure I understand that you're complaining there are no new features whilst saying they need to go back to simple + good + affordable. It's pretty affordable for the CPU, RAM, storage etc. I buy Pixel phones specifically because they don't come with any """useful""" shit. Because useful typically means 500MB of RAM POS bloatware bundled in with the vendor's ROM and buggy home screen replacement.

bluetonium 6y ago
It seems straightforward to me: * Google has not been able to put together the new features that would justify this flagship cost * Because they cannot, they should instead focus on their strengths which are simplicity, all around quality, and affordability (e.g. the $349 4a)
- cmroanirgo 6y ago
  Apparently it's also without a headphone port, which is a deal breaker for me.
  - davidandgoliath 6y ago
    While I agree, you should definitely grab yourself a set of Jabra 65-85t bluetooth headphones and transition to the future :)
- TheCapn 6y ago
  Thanks for taking my word soup and putting into a way more concise comment. I loved Nexus (and the Pixel 1) because I'm getting them straight from Google without contract to my wireless provider and without their additional bloat software. I like getting updates direct from the source in a timely manner and I figure they want their brand on quality product. At this point it feels like they're using their brand to justify overcharging on something which is hardly better than a lot of the market competition. Its a fine proposition if they're the clear winner in all things Android but they really aren't anymore, why keep pretending and just go back to that niche of: Quality, Simple, Affordable?
  - skybrian 6y ago
    But don't they have that covered? The 4a looks pretty good. I'm not particularly concerned about the Pixel 5's price since I assume there will be a 5a next year. People who care about 5G might buy it, but you don't have to.
- jartelt 6y ago
  This isn't a flagship cost. It is $700 for the Pixel 5 vs. $1,000+ for an iPhone.
  - fataliss 6y ago
    The fairly equivalent iPhone 11 is $799. That does look like flagship cost ballpark to me
    - jonny_eh 6y ago
      But the iPhone 11 isn't flagship, it's mid-tier.

bluetonium 6y ago

It seems straightforward to me: * Google has not been able to put together the new features that would justify this flagship cost * Because they cannot, they should instead focus on their strengths which are simplicity, all around quality, and affordability (e.g. the $349 4a)

cmroanirgo 6y ago
Apparently it's also without a headphone port, which is a deal breaker for me.
- davidandgoliath 6y ago
  While I agree, you should definitely grab yourself a set of Jabra 65-85t bluetooth headphones and transition to the future :)
TheCapn 6y ago
Thanks for taking my word soup and putting into a way more concise comment. I loved Nexus (and the Pixel 1) because I'm getting them straight from Google without contract to my wireless provider and without their additional bloat software. I like getting updates direct from the source in a timely manner and I figure they want their brand on quality product. At this point it feels like they're using their brand to justify overcharging on something which is hardly better than a lot of the market competition. Its a fine proposition if they're the clear winner in all things Android but they really aren't anymore, why keep pretending and just go back to that niche of: Quality, Simple, Affordable?
- skybrian 6y ago
  But don't they have that covered? The 4a looks pretty good. I'm not particularly concerned about the Pixel 5's price since I assume there will be a 5a next year. People who care about 5G might buy it, but you don't have to.
jartelt 6y ago
This isn't a flagship cost. It is $700 for the Pixel 5 vs. $1,000+ for an iPhone.
- fataliss 6y ago
  The fairly equivalent iPhone 11 is $799. That does look like flagship cost ballpark to me
  - jonny_eh 6y ago
    But the iPhone 11 isn't flagship, it's mid-tier.