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From the very initial scroll through things, I'm not impressed. Now I'm not a habitual phone upgrader, I tend to replace my phone when the old one wears down o

From the very initial scroll through things, I'm not impressed. Now I'm not a habitual phone upgrader, I tend to replace my phone when the old one wears down or breaks. I bought the Pixel 4 after my Pixel 1 died and was fairly unimpressed overall. Their headlining market points for the Pixel 5 just... aren't that interesting. - 5G: Doesn't really matter to me. 4G is plenty fast for everyday use and I wouldn't try heavy enough streaming off data to even need to increase - Wireless charging: not new - Photos in the dark: not new - Google Assistant: not new... and honestly, kinda crap. I turned off a lot of permissions on my phone and the assistant is virtually useless now. I can't give it commands from the lock screen or do even basic things with it unlocked while driving. At this point I'll probably root and just put a custom ROM on there because nothing google packaged with the phone is all that useful. The battery is nice, but its also not worth a $800 price tag. I think Google needs to stop chasing the iPhone and go back to the Nexus style of simple+good+affordable. Even the 4a seems like a stronger value proposition imo. EDIT: I just noticed that they brought back the fingerpint unlock on the back? Okay, that is a huge plus; the face unlock is a generally shitty feature usability wise. I was kinda upset when I gave up wireless charging for the Pixel 1 but fell in love with the fingerprint unlock on the back. When I went to Pixel 4 and lost the fingerprint in exchange for Wireless charging I kinda felt like I made a poor choice. Now that they finally combined the two I'll give them credit.

wegs 6y ago
I would add that honest specs would help. I'd like to know sensor size. Not "pixel width." Sensor size+aperture, to a first order, is what you want to know about a camera.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  It's all useless. With a regular camera, absolutely, but I don't think the Pixel has changed its sensor since the 2? It's all post-processing improvements.
faitswulff 6y ago
I think the only new things I saw were the ultrawide lens and the lighting effects in Google Photos, which were neat but not breathtaking.
SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
It's only $799 CAD, which puts it into the mid range with all this price inflation.
- TheCapn 6y ago
  Good catch, I'll edit.
beaker52 6y ago
I love shopping for new devices and it's about time for me, coming from a Pixel 3. I skipped the 4 because it seemed like a sideways step rather than an upgrade, and disappointingly, the same seems true here. I think Google just made me into someone who'll look elsewhere when my Pixel 3 falls apart. It's just not compelling enough to upgrade, and believe me, I don't even need much of a reason.
tomlu 6y ago
I lost my Pixel 3 recently and upgraded to a Pixel 4 (but had a Pixel 1 as well). You skipped right to the worst incarnation - no fingerprint unlock, mediocre battery life.
- rirarobo 6y ago
  Yeah, seems that they listened, I'm very pleased that they are bringing back the fingerprint sensor for Pixel 5.
- krzyk 6y ago
  Why? Face Unlock is a godsend, Pixel 3 was my first phone with fingerprint scanner and I hated every minute of using it. It was unreliable piece of &^*&^%&^, I had to teach it my fingers every week during the cold season (which in my country is close to 7-8 months) and during summer I had to do it only once a month maybe - during winter the air gets colder fingers dry out especially if you have allergy (and I do). And it was slow, I did unlock with pattern faster. As for battery, I don't feel that it is poor in Pixel 4 (I ditched Pixel 3 as soon as the preorders for Pixel 4 started), but I use wireless charging all the time, I have it at work and at home, so my phone is almost always at 100%. And now I'm puzzled, why did they bring back fingerprint scanner in Pixel 5? Apple didn't bring it back after they jumped the face unlock wagon. Not to mention inferior CPU/CPU in Pixel 5, it looks also worse than even in Pixel 3, but the price is still premium. So basically now we get a Nexus quality phone with Pixel price point.
  - falcolas 6y ago
    Personal opinion: Face unlock in the age of face masks might as well not exist. Ideally, both options should be available concurrently.
    - krzyk 6y ago
      Yeah, both options would be best. But "age of facemasks" depends on country. In mine I need to wear masks only in stores, public transport. But in those places I also need to wear gloves, so both ways of unlocking phone are unavailable to me. And still, Apple manages to keep their unlocking mechanism.
owenwil 6y ago
Google Assistant was actually pretty interesting – they have a new feature called 'Hold for Me' that allows you to put it on hold when you're in a call waiting queue with someone like your bank and it'll let you know when it's your turn. That alone seemed pretty big to me! Demo: https://twitter.com/ow/status/1311373805814767619 https://twitter.com/ow/status/1311373805814767619
- ruuda 6y ago
  Looks useful indeed, but is it related to assistant in any way apart from branding? It seems like something that they can just put in the phone app.
- Bedon292 6y ago
  Looks really useful, but that's software side. Hopefully other versions will be getting that update as well. Wouldn't make sense to gate that behind the Pixel 5, but maybe they will.
blibble 6y ago
the google assistant was reasonable, but now it's become crap because of one minor change and that is that it no longer beeps after saying "hi google", so no idea if it's actually processed the wakeup word and then sometimes it no longer responds after commands, e.g. "set alarm for 8am", so you have no idea if it's actually done it until a month or so ago you could work around this by uninstalling the updates, but now they've done something to the clock app so if you do that you can't set alarms with it at all annoying
- Aissen 6y ago
  It should be possible to re-enable the beep in settings, just like for Google Home devices.
  - blibble 6y ago
    it's been a problem for around 10 months, reverting the app version fixes it but has other side effects according to a search... apparently this is a common problem
- stronglikedan 6y ago
  My Note 8 still beeps to let me know it's ready for my command. Is this a model-specific thing?
rtkwe 6y ago
> Google Assistant: not new... and honestly, kinda crap. I turned off a lot of permissions on my phone and the assistant is virtually useless now. This kind of feels like the complaints that a site is broken then you find out the person commenting has disabled javascript. Of course it's less useful with all the permissions locked down. Anecdotally I find it really useful, I get people have privacy concerns but given I'm not willing to uproot my email and change all the sign ups I'm using either gmail or direct google login for I'm already pretty exposed to Google. I use it a lot driving since I can just squeeze the bottom sides of the phone to launch it. As for the fingerprint reader that's weird, they had both on the Pixel 3 (at least the XL version I have), don't know what would have changed to make it not possible on the 4.
- TheCapn 6y ago
  Yeah, it is a bit nitpicky, but overall I've been totally underwhelmed with Google Assistant. Maybe it was their marketing for how "advanced" of an AI it is (when all they really mean is its voice recognition is pretty strong). My issues in general which lead me to locking down the permissions, and not really looking back, is that its frustrating to work with. If I'm trying to text hands free in my car it has random delays that have no audio cue to work with. If I'm holding the phone, I can feel its vibrations telling me when its ready... but I'm driving, so handling the phone itself seems like a poor choice. After that I tried some things like "Ok Google, when I get home remind me to put the trash out"... to which point it launches a calendar app and requires me to manually press things... or mishears me and just tries googling for random shit. Again, not helpful while driving. I tried playing with it. I had my navigation open while commuting in an unfamiliar corner of the country once and I said: "Ok Google, I need to use the bathroom"... so it google searched constipation cures. For the record, the permission it wants me to enable is Web & App Activity Tracking... which should not block me from voice texting but here we are. --- Nitpickiness aside, it just isn't that special anymore is it? I don't see what's so special about a niche, buggy voice prompt that requires me to run apps manually half the time. Its a nice feature to include, but it has never felt like a "selling point" to the phone lines.
  - rtkwe 6y ago
maaarghk 6y ago
I'm honestly not sure I understand that you're complaining there are no new features whilst saying they need to go back to simple + good + affordable. It's pretty affordable for the CPU, RAM, storage etc. I buy Pixel phones specifically because they don't come with any """useful""" shit. Because useful typically means 500MB of RAM POS bloatware bundled in with the vendor's ROM and buggy home screen replacement.
- bluetonium 6y ago
  It seems straightforward to me: * Google has not been able to put together the new features that would justify this flagship cost * Because they cannot, they should instead focus on their strengths which are simplicity, all around quality, and affordability (e.g. the $349 4a)
  - cmroanirgo 6y ago
    Apparently it's also without a headphone port, which is a deal breaker for me.
    - davidandgoliath 6y ago
      While I agree, you should definitely grab yourself a set of Jabra 65-85t bluetooth headphones and transition to the future :)
  - TheCapn 6y ago
    Thanks for taking my word soup and putting into a way more concise comment. I loved Nexus (and the Pixel 1) because I'm getting them straight from Google without contract to my wireless provider and without their additional bloat software. I like getting updates direct from the source in a timely manner and I figure they want their brand on quality product. At this point it feels like they're using their brand to justify overcharging on something which is hardly better than a lot of the market competition. Its a fine proposition if they're the clear winner in all things Android but they really aren't anymore, why keep pretending and just go back to that niche of: Quality, Simple, Affordable?
dgregd 6y ago
The price is very disappointing. Similarly spec'd Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite 5G will cost about $300.
- krn 6y ago
  For an additional comparison: Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro 5G[1], which was announced on the same day and with the similar price tag as Pixel 5, comes with Snapdragon 865 processor, 5000mAh battery, 6.67" display size, and wireless charging, but lacks an OLED display, a dedicated security chip, a water resistance rating, and a "zero-bloatware" Android experience. I would still pick any Pixel smartphone over any Xiaomi smartphone, if they were available in my country. But at least there is an open-source tool on Github for safely removing most of the Chinese bloatware that comes with Xiaomi devices[2]. [1] https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_10t_pro_5g-10437.php https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_10t_pro_5g-10437.php [2] https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
mabbo 6y ago
> The battery is nice, but its also not worth a $800 price tag. > fingerpint unlock on the back > 4G is plenty fast for everyday use I bought a Moto G7 Power a couple years ago. 5000mAh battery, and a low-energy processor. I can do 3+ days without charging. Fingerprint unlock on the back. 4G wireless. It's under $200 USD right now. This, after years of whatever the flagship android phone was.
- grawprog 6y ago
  I've got the same phone, used only the charger provided with it, followed as many of the battery saving rules as I could and after about a year and a half it's down to needing a charge every night after a day of heavy use. I'd still highly recommend it though. It's a great phone overall and comes without q lot of preinstalled bullshit.
  - mabbo 6y ago
    Yeah, it's been a couple years for me and the battery is showing it's age- but I didn't charge it last night, and I'm still at 33%. But at $200, buy one every 12 months and you're still ahead compared to buying a flagship every 2 years. My only hangup is that the camera is not great. I don't take a lot of photos, but it was a noticeable step down from the Pixel 1.
    - grawprog 6y ago
      Yeah, the camera's not the best, I think there's two other versions of the g7 though. One of them has a better camera, but doesn't have the battery life. I think it's the g7 play but i'm not entirely sure.
imglorp 6y ago
> Wireless charging: not new It irritates me that this has been a feature off and on since the Palm Pre or before, and that phone makers alternately trot it out as new shiny and then silently take it away again at random times. Every device should have it, IMO, for the convenience.
- TheCapn 6y ago
  I liked the Pixel 1's metal backing which is my understanding why Wireless Charging was not possible. All things considered, the tradeoff of metal phone vs. wireless is a pretty good choice to have depending on how you use your phones. Not to mention the pixel 4's glass design makes it heavy.
- fomine3 6y ago
  Personally I hate Qi charging because it's bad for battery health due to heat and it increases weight by coil and surface material like glass. I like to have Qi for ear buds, watch or something like smaller battery devices, but not for phones that has big batteries.
oftenwrong 6y ago
I am still using a Pixel 1, and I am completely happy with it, aside from the degraded battery life. If the Pixel 1 was still receiving security updates, I would be happy to stick with it. I would just replace the battery. However, I think security updates are somewhat important, so I will probably end up buying a new-model phone. It would be nice if my phone could be like my computer (running Debian). I can always install a new OS version on it. It never gets permanently cut off from receiving security updates.
chaosharmonic 6y ago
I'm honestly more disappointed that they didn't bring wireless charging or waterproofing to the actual midrange with those specs. To be fair, I also could care less about the spec sheet. Given the screwy market segmentation caused by the 865, and the fact that new and substantial WiFi/Bluetooth/USB upgrades won't consistently hit devices for another few months, I've more or less written off 2020 as a gap year for anything high-end regardless, the way I should have the year that the 810 shipped. In the meantime, what could be really interesting is the kernel - specifically, if this supports GKIs out of the box, and what comes out of the XDA crowd if it does. (They're not required to use in testing until device kernels begin moving to 5.4, but given that the Pixel line generally implements these kinds of architectural changes first as reference devices it would still be a safe bet I think.) This could lead to a lot of traction for projects like Halium, for instance.
bryanlarsen 6y ago
> I think Google needs to stop chasing the iPhone and go back to the Nexus style of simple+good+affordable. That's exactly what they did. The recently released $349 4a reviewed really well, most reviews compared it explicitly to the original Nexus.
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fomine3 6y ago
Pixel 4a (4G) must be for you. If you need much cheeper, it's Xiaomi's chance.
gowld 6y ago
I'm impressed that you managed to get through the crazy multi-directional animantions during your scroll-through and were able to collect any info.

wegs 6y ago

I would add that honest specs would help. I'd like to know sensor size. Not "pixel width." Sensor size+aperture, to a first order, is what you want to know about a camera.

SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
It's all useless. With a regular camera, absolutely, but I don't think the Pixel has changed its sensor since the 2? It's all post-processing improvements.

faitswulff 6y ago

I think the only new things I saw were the ultrawide lens and the lighting effects in Google Photos, which were neat but not breathtaking.

SketchySeaBeast 6y ago

It's only $799 CAD, which puts it into the mid range with all this price inflation.

TheCapn 6y ago
Good catch, I'll edit.

beaker52 6y ago

I love shopping for new devices and it's about time for me, coming from a Pixel 3. I skipped the 4 because it seemed like a sideways step rather than an upgrade, and disappointingly, the same seems true here. I think Google just made me into someone who'll look elsewhere when my Pixel 3 falls apart. It's just not compelling enough to upgrade, and believe me, I don't even need much of a reason.

tomlu 6y ago

I lost my Pixel 3 recently and upgraded to a Pixel 4 (but had a Pixel 1 as well). You skipped right to the worst incarnation - no fingerprint unlock, mediocre battery life.

rirarobo 6y ago
Yeah, seems that they listened, I'm very pleased that they are bringing back the fingerprint sensor for Pixel 5.
krzyk 6y ago
Why? Face Unlock is a godsend, Pixel 3 was my first phone with fingerprint scanner and I hated every minute of using it. It was unreliable piece of &^*&^%&^, I had to teach it my fingers every week during the cold season (which in my country is close to 7-8 months) and during summer I had to do it only once a month maybe - during winter the air gets colder fingers dry out especially if you have allergy (and I do). And it was slow, I did unlock with pattern faster. As for battery, I don't feel that it is poor in Pixel 4 (I ditched Pixel 3 as soon as the preorders for Pixel 4 started), but I use wireless charging all the time, I have it at work and at home, so my phone is almost always at 100%. And now I'm puzzled, why did they bring back fingerprint scanner in Pixel 5? Apple didn't bring it back after they jumped the face unlock wagon. Not to mention inferior CPU/CPU in Pixel 5, it looks also worse than even in Pixel 3, but the price is still premium. So basically now we get a Nexus quality phone with Pixel price point.
- falcolas 6y ago
  Personal opinion: Face unlock in the age of face masks might as well not exist. Ideally, both options should be available concurrently.
  - krzyk 6y ago
    Yeah, both options would be best. But "age of facemasks" depends on country. In mine I need to wear masks only in stores, public transport. But in those places I also need to wear gloves, so both ways of unlocking phone are unavailable to me. And still, Apple manages to keep their unlocking mechanism.

owenwil 6y ago

Google Assistant was actually pretty interesting – they have a new feature called 'Hold for Me' that allows you to put it on hold when you're in a call waiting queue with someone like your bank and it'll let you know when it's your turn. That alone seemed pretty big to me! Demo: https://twitter.com/ow/status/1311373805814767619 https://twitter.com/ow/status/1311373805814767619

ruuda 6y ago
Looks useful indeed, but is it related to assistant in any way apart from branding? It seems like something that they can just put in the phone app.
Bedon292 6y ago
Looks really useful, but that's software side. Hopefully other versions will be getting that update as well. Wouldn't make sense to gate that behind the Pixel 5, but maybe they will.

blibble 6y ago

the google assistant was reasonable, but now it's become crap because of one minor change and that is that it no longer beeps after saying "hi google", so no idea if it's actually processed the wakeup word and then sometimes it no longer responds after commands, e.g. "set alarm for 8am", so you have no idea if it's actually done it until a month or so ago you could work around this by uninstalling the updates, but now they've done something to the clock app so if you do that you can't set alarms with it at all annoying

Aissen 6y ago
It should be possible to re-enable the beep in settings, just like for Google Home devices.
- blibble 6y ago
  it's been a problem for around 10 months, reverting the app version fixes it but has other side effects according to a search... apparently this is a common problem
stronglikedan 6y ago
My Note 8 still beeps to let me know it's ready for my command. Is this a model-specific thing?

rtkwe 6y ago

> Google Assistant: not new... and honestly, kinda crap. I turned off a lot of permissions on my phone and the assistant is virtually useless now. This kind of feels like the complaints that a site is broken then you find out the person commenting has disabled javascript. Of course it's less useful with all the permissions locked down. Anecdotally I find it really useful, I get people have privacy concerns but given I'm not willing to uproot my email and change all the sign ups I'm using either gmail or direct google login for I'm already pretty exposed to Google. I use it a lot driving since I can just squeeze the bottom sides of the phone to launch it. As for the fingerprint reader that's weird, they had both on the Pixel 3 (at least the XL version I have), don't know what would have changed to make it not possible on the 4.

TheCapn 6y ago
Yeah, it is a bit nitpicky, but overall I've been totally underwhelmed with Google Assistant. Maybe it was their marketing for how "advanced" of an AI it is (when all they really mean is its voice recognition is pretty strong). My issues in general which lead me to locking down the permissions, and not really looking back, is that its frustrating to work with. If I'm trying to text hands free in my car it has random delays that have no audio cue to work with. If I'm holding the phone, I can feel its vibrations telling me when its ready... but I'm driving, so handling the phone itself seems like a poor choice. After that I tried some things like "Ok Google, when I get home remind me to put the trash out"... to which point it launches a calendar app and requires me to manually press things... or mishears me and just tries googling for random shit. Again, not helpful while driving. I tried playing with it. I had my navigation open while commuting in an unfamiliar corner of the country once and I said: "Ok Google, I need to use the bathroom"... so it google searched constipation cures. For the record, the permission it wants me to enable is Web & App Activity Tracking... which should not block me from voice texting but here we are. --- Nitpickiness aside, it just isn't that special anymore is it? I don't see what's so special about a niche, buggy voice prompt that requires me to run apps manually half the time. Its a nice feature to include, but it has never felt like a "selling point" to the phone lines.
- rtkwe 6y ago

maaarghk 6y ago

I'm honestly not sure I understand that you're complaining there are no new features whilst saying they need to go back to simple + good + affordable. It's pretty affordable for the CPU, RAM, storage etc. I buy Pixel phones specifically because they don't come with any """useful""" shit. Because useful typically means 500MB of RAM POS bloatware bundled in with the vendor's ROM and buggy home screen replacement.

bluetonium 6y ago
It seems straightforward to me: * Google has not been able to put together the new features that would justify this flagship cost * Because they cannot, they should instead focus on their strengths which are simplicity, all around quality, and affordability (e.g. the $349 4a)
- cmroanirgo 6y ago
  Apparently it's also without a headphone port, which is a deal breaker for me.
  - davidandgoliath 6y ago
    While I agree, you should definitely grab yourself a set of Jabra 65-85t bluetooth headphones and transition to the future :)
- TheCapn 6y ago
  Thanks for taking my word soup and putting into a way more concise comment. I loved Nexus (and the Pixel 1) because I'm getting them straight from Google without contract to my wireless provider and without their additional bloat software. I like getting updates direct from the source in a timely manner and I figure they want their brand on quality product. At this point it feels like they're using their brand to justify overcharging on something which is hardly better than a lot of the market competition. Its a fine proposition if they're the clear winner in all things Android but they really aren't anymore, why keep pretending and just go back to that niche of: Quality, Simple, Affordable?

dgregd 6y ago

The price is very disappointing. Similarly spec'd Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite 5G will cost about $300.

krn 6y ago
For an additional comparison: Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro 5G[1], which was announced on the same day and with the similar price tag as Pixel 5, comes with Snapdragon 865 processor, 5000mAh battery, 6.67" display size, and wireless charging, but lacks an OLED display, a dedicated security chip, a water resistance rating, and a "zero-bloatware" Android experience. I would still pick any Pixel smartphone over any Xiaomi smartphone, if they were available in my country. But at least there is an open-source tool on Github for safely removing most of the Chinese bloatware that comes with Xiaomi devices[2]. [1] https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_10t_pro_5g-10437.php https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_10t_pro_5g-10437.php [2] https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools

mabbo 6y ago

> The battery is nice, but its also not worth a $800 price tag. > fingerpint unlock on the back > 4G is plenty fast for everyday use I bought a Moto G7 Power a couple years ago. 5000mAh battery, and a low-energy processor. I can do 3+ days without charging. Fingerprint unlock on the back. 4G wireless. It's under $200 USD right now. This, after years of whatever the flagship android phone was.

grawprog 6y ago
I've got the same phone, used only the charger provided with it, followed as many of the battery saving rules as I could and after about a year and a half it's down to needing a charge every night after a day of heavy use. I'd still highly recommend it though. It's a great phone overall and comes without q lot of preinstalled bullshit.
- mabbo 6y ago
  Yeah, it's been a couple years for me and the battery is showing it's age- but I didn't charge it last night, and I'm still at 33%. But at $200, buy one every 12 months and you're still ahead compared to buying a flagship every 2 years. My only hangup is that the camera is not great. I don't take a lot of photos, but it was a noticeable step down from the Pixel 1.
  - grawprog 6y ago
    Yeah, the camera's not the best, I think there's two other versions of the g7 though. One of them has a better camera, but doesn't have the battery life. I think it's the g7 play but i'm not entirely sure.

imglorp 6y ago

> Wireless charging: not new It irritates me that this has been a feature off and on since the Palm Pre or before, and that phone makers alternately trot it out as new shiny and then silently take it away again at random times. Every device should have it, IMO, for the convenience.

TheCapn 6y ago
I liked the Pixel 1's metal backing which is my understanding why Wireless Charging was not possible. All things considered, the tradeoff of metal phone vs. wireless is a pretty good choice to have depending on how you use your phones. Not to mention the pixel 4's glass design makes it heavy.
fomine3 6y ago
Personally I hate Qi charging because it's bad for battery health due to heat and it increases weight by coil and surface material like glass. I like to have Qi for ear buds, watch or something like smaller battery devices, but not for phones that has big batteries.

oftenwrong 6y ago

I am still using a Pixel 1, and I am completely happy with it, aside from the degraded battery life. If the Pixel 1 was still receiving security updates, I would be happy to stick with it. I would just replace the battery. However, I think security updates are somewhat important, so I will probably end up buying a new-model phone. It would be nice if my phone could be like my computer (running Debian). I can always install a new OS version on it. It never gets permanently cut off from receiving security updates.

chaosharmonic 6y ago

I'm honestly more disappointed that they didn't bring wireless charging or waterproofing to the actual midrange with those specs. To be fair, I also could care less about the spec sheet. Given the screwy market segmentation caused by the 865, and the fact that new and substantial WiFi/Bluetooth/USB upgrades won't consistently hit devices for another few months, I've more or less written off 2020 as a gap year for anything high-end regardless, the way I should have the year that the 810 shipped. In the meantime, what could be really interesting is the kernel - specifically, if this supports GKIs out of the box, and what comes out of the XDA crowd if it does. (They're not required to use in testing until device kernels begin moving to 5.4, but given that the Pixel line generally implements these kinds of architectural changes first as reference devices it would still be a safe bet I think.) This could lead to a lot of traction for projects like Halium, for instance.

bryanlarsen 6y ago

> I think Google needs to stop chasing the iPhone and go back to the Nexus style of simple+good+affordable. That's exactly what they did. The recently released $349 4a reviewed really well, most reviews compared it explicitly to the original Nexus.

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fomine3 6y ago

Pixel 4a (4G) must be for you. If you need much cheeper, it's Xiaomi's chance.

gowld 6y ago

I'm impressed that you managed to get through the crazy multi-directional animantions during your scroll-through and were able to collect any info.