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I hate to be the one triggering Godwin's Law at this depth in the discussion, but oh well. > Imagine having employees who refuses to do work because 'they feel

I hate to be the one triggering Godwin's Law at this depth in the discussion, but oh well. > Imagine having employees who refuses to do work because 'they feel they shouldn't'. Or organizes walkouts, protests and are actively lobbying for changes in company policy to reflect their own personal values. Or protests against certain customers of the company, because they are evil in some perceived way or form. It's smart to do what one can to get rid of these types of employees basically because they are only trouble, they add nothing with their activism in the workplace. I think the world would have been collectively grateful if engineers at IBM and Dehomag would have refused to do some work because they felt they shouldn't [1]. Remember, politics is out there in the world. If a large enough number of people at your company are being affected by it, there's likely something wrong that's much greater than your company. History can teach us some lessons about this. --------------------------- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

conanbatt 6y ago
They always have the choice to not do the work. You just don't show up and that's it. Not doing something is the easiest thing to do. The protest is about trying someone else to do something.
- quadrifoliate 6y ago
  > They always have the choice to not do the work. You just don't show up and that's it. Not doing something is the easiest thing to do. In a country where your employer controls your access to healthcare and retirement, as well as indirectly controls your access to these things for the rest of your life via references (future employers will shy away from hiring a lone person who refused to do as they were told and was fired for that reason), I would say this is not easy at all. IMO, modern companies in America are turning into a sort of benevolent government; and that's why you have all these protests. Cut employers out of things fundamental to life like healthcare and retirement, and turn it into a true monetary exchange. Then you will have far fewer of these protests; and people might feel more comfortable quitting en masse instead.
  - conanbatt 6y ago
    Sorry but employees making top 5% of salaries in the country are not bound by economic necessity to their employer. That argument might have a point in amazon warehouse workers, but not on people that have plenty of job opportunities at other employers as well as self employed.

conanbatt 6y ago

They always have the choice to not do the work. You just don't show up and that's it. Not doing something is the easiest thing to do. The protest is about trying someone else to do something.

quadrifoliate 6y ago
> They always have the choice to not do the work. You just don't show up and that's it. Not doing something is the easiest thing to do. In a country where your employer controls your access to healthcare and retirement, as well as indirectly controls your access to these things for the rest of your life via references (future employers will shy away from hiring a lone person who refused to do as they were told and was fired for that reason), I would say this is not easy at all. IMO, modern companies in America are turning into a sort of benevolent government; and that's why you have all these protests. Cut employers out of things fundamental to life like healthcare and retirement, and turn it into a true monetary exchange. Then you will have far fewer of these protests; and people might feel more comfortable quitting en masse instead.
- conanbatt 6y ago
  Sorry but employees making top 5% of salaries in the country are not bound by economic necessity to their employer. That argument might have a point in amazon warehouse workers, but not on people that have plenty of job opportunities at other employers as well as self employed.