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How is it goal post moving? They have one of the highest death per capita in the world from Coronavirus. It's roughly equal to Italy's. To say it hasn't been a

by soperj 6y ago

How is it goal post moving? They have one of the highest death per capita in the world from Coronavirus. It's roughly equal to Italy's. To say it hasn't been a total failure doesn't mean it's something to emulate. >We can't meaningfully compare other statistics like total deaths and economic impacts until the pandemic has run its course. We can. Otherwise you wouldn't do anything differently at any time.

throwawaysea 6y ago
He means the goal posts moved from "flattening the curve" to "save every last life". Maybe the goal shouldn't be to save every last life but to strike a better balance between living our lives freely and containing COVID to some extent.
- pwinnski 6y ago
  They also have the highest unemployment rate among neighboring countries, so it doesn't seem like they continued living their lives freely, either. In some places, like Sweden, many people have voluntarily adopted policies much more strict than required by law. In other places, like the US, many people have chosen to live lives much less strict than required by law. Government mandates alone don't make as good a basis for comparison as actual activity.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    The unemployment rate has been higher in Sweden than in Denmark before Covid-19 though, and similar to Norway (which it is today as well). It doesn't seem to have moved very differently from the neighboring countries. Useful statistics will hardly be available until the pandemic has come to a hold. It's too early to tell if e.g. Germany's approach of avoiding unemployment by massively increasing public debt is successful in the long run.
cwhiz 6y ago
Deaths above median will tell the actual story. There are too many bad incentives on covid death reporting.
- anthony_romeo 6y ago
  Please tell me the story of deaths above median. I'm dying to know.
codeulike 6y ago
In March/April many said Sweden was heading for disaster

by soperj 6y ago

throwawaysea 6y ago

He means the goal posts moved from "flattening the curve" to "save every last life". Maybe the goal shouldn't be to save every last life but to strike a better balance between living our lives freely and containing COVID to some extent.

pwinnski 6y ago
They also have the highest unemployment rate among neighboring countries, so it doesn't seem like they continued living their lives freely, either. In some places, like Sweden, many people have voluntarily adopted policies much more strict than required by law. In other places, like the US, many people have chosen to live lives much less strict than required by law. Government mandates alone don't make as good a basis for comparison as actual activity.
- luckylion 6y ago
  The unemployment rate has been higher in Sweden than in Denmark before Covid-19 though, and similar to Norway (which it is today as well). It doesn't seem to have moved very differently from the neighboring countries. Useful statistics will hardly be available until the pandemic has come to a hold. It's too early to tell if e.g. Germany's approach of avoiding unemployment by massively increasing public debt is successful in the long run.

cwhiz 6y ago

Deaths above median will tell the actual story. There are too many bad incentives on covid death reporting.

anthony_romeo 6y ago
Please tell me the story of deaths above median. I'm dying to know.

codeulike 6y ago

In March/April many said Sweden was heading for disaster