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maybe someone will finally port Pinball to X64, given MS didn't seem capable (at least in the time allotted) https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/2012121

maybe someone will finally port Pinball to X64, given MS didn't seem capable (at least in the time allotted) https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=5803 https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=58...

Fabricio20 6y ago
3D Pinball can at least run on modern windows, literally just copy-paste from Windows XP and it will run. They don't make software like they used to! /s
- wang_li 6y ago
  The glquake binary from id runs on 64 bit Windows 10. Microsoft has done a admirable job of maintaining compatibility.
carabiner 6y ago
I keep thinking about this.
soylentcola 6y ago
Are you talking about "3D Pinball"? Looking around it seems to be available for later versions of Windows (but I didn't look into the details of whether it's a port or something else).
sebazzz 6y ago
Surely it can be run in compatibility mode on modern Windows?
GranPC 6y ago
I think the Pinball source code was not included in the leaks, possibly because it was developed by an external company.
- EamonnMR 6y ago
  It was developed by Maxis I believe.
  - sli 6y ago
    Correct. It was a single table, or at least a version of it, from a Maxis pinball game called Full Tilt! Pinball. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Tilt!_Pinball https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Tilt!_Pinball
  - whereistimbo 6y ago
    It was developed by Cinematronics. These guys then had a deal with Microsoft to include Pinball (it was called as 'Space Cadet') for exposure. Later Cinematronics acquired by Maxis. From https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=5803 https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msd... > Cinematronics was founded by David Stafford, Mike Sandige and I in 1994, and Space Cadet was our first published game > The deal David did with Microsoft was non-exclusive. As Danny noted, we were more interested in the exposure and didn't see much revenue from it. However, it did lead to our relationship and eventual acquisition by Maxis.
- aap_ 6y ago
  It's included in the the NT 3.5 leak.
  - Raymonf 6y ago
    It's not, unless you're confusing the Pinball game with the driver called Pinball.
    - aap_ 6y ago
      Hm, I thought I seen it but perhaps that really was just the driver. damn
anticensor 6y ago
There are huge changes to numeric code needed as some floating point calculations were borderline working.
mappu 6y ago
It's not true, though, a 64-bit pinball binary is included on the Windows XP 64-bit media. I had posted this on the Old New Thing comments at the time, but comments on all old posts were lost in the blog transition.
- Lammy 6y ago
  Which XP 64-bit release? (IA-64, x86-64, both?)
  - loosescrews 6y ago
    I know x64 had it.
- quietbritishjim 6y ago
  Here is the original post with comments: https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=5803 https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msd...
  - jefftk 6y ago
    "Bring out your XP CD, copy PINBALL.* from it, and EXPAND the files (yes, you will have to either guess the correct extensions or hunt through installation files, but it's not rocket science)."
0df8dkdf 6y ago
what about MS Paint? There is a bug in there were you can draw with the background DVD video. Would love to have that bug/feature.
- CodesInChaos 6y ago
  Isn't that just one particular color close to black serving as mask for the dvd renderer overlay?
- userbinator 6y ago
  Not really specific to Paint, but every program that happens to display the overlay colour will experience the same effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay

Fabricio20 6y ago

3D Pinball can at least run on modern windows, literally just copy-paste from Windows XP and it will run. They don't make software like they used to! /s

wang_li 6y ago
The glquake binary from id runs on 64 bit Windows 10. Microsoft has done a admirable job of maintaining compatibility.

carabiner 6y ago

I keep thinking about this.

soylentcola 6y ago

Are you talking about "3D Pinball"? Looking around it seems to be available for later versions of Windows (but I didn't look into the details of whether it's a port or something else).

sebazzz 6y ago

Surely it can be run in compatibility mode on modern Windows?

GranPC 6y ago

I think the Pinball source code was not included in the leaks, possibly because it was developed by an external company.

EamonnMR 6y ago
It was developed by Maxis I believe.
- sli 6y ago
  Correct. It was a single table, or at least a version of it, from a Maxis pinball game called Full Tilt! Pinball. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Tilt!_Pinball https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Tilt!_Pinball
- whereistimbo 6y ago
  It was developed by Cinematronics. These guys then had a deal with Microsoft to include Pinball (it was called as 'Space Cadet') for exposure. Later Cinematronics acquired by Maxis. From https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=5803 https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msd... > Cinematronics was founded by David Stafford, Mike Sandige and I in 1994, and Space Cadet was our first published game > The deal David did with Microsoft was non-exclusive. As Danny noted, we were more interested in the exposure and didn't see much revenue from it. However, it did lead to our relationship and eventual acquisition by Maxis.
aap_ 6y ago
It's included in the the NT 3.5 leak.
- Raymonf 6y ago
  It's not, unless you're confusing the Pinball game with the driver called Pinball.
  - aap_ 6y ago
    Hm, I thought I seen it but perhaps that really was just the driver. damn

anticensor 6y ago

There are huge changes to numeric code needed as some floating point calculations were borderline working.

mappu 6y ago

It's not true, though, a 64-bit pinball binary is included on the Windows XP 64-bit media. I had posted this on the Old New Thing comments at the time, but comments on all old posts were lost in the blog transition.

Lammy 6y ago
Which XP 64-bit release? (IA-64, x86-64, both?)
- loosescrews 6y ago
  I know x64 had it.
quietbritishjim 6y ago
Here is the original post with comments: https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=5803 https://web.archive.org/web/20190108095105/https://blogs.msd...
- jefftk 6y ago
  "Bring out your XP CD, copy PINBALL.* from it, and EXPAND the files (yes, you will have to either guess the correct extensions or hunt through installation files, but it's not rocket science)."

0df8dkdf 6y ago

what about MS Paint? There is a bug in there were you can draw with the background DVD video. Would love to have that bug/feature.

CodesInChaos 6y ago
Isn't that just one particular color close to black serving as mask for the dvd renderer overlay?
userbinator 6y ago
Not really specific to Paint, but every program that happens to display the overlay colour will experience the same effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay