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> I'm confused why stories about Sweden's success keep popping up here. The country had TEN TIMES the per capita death rate of its neighbors and still has the h
by ardy42 6y ago
> I'm confused why stories about Sweden's success keep popping up here. The country had TEN TIMES the per capita death rate of its neighbors and still has the highest unemployment of all the Nordic countries. Seems to me like the worst of both worlds.
Because a lot of people, mainly for ideological reasons, would have preferred the US and the rest of Europe have done similar. A key part of justifying that view is to be convinced it was a success, true or not.
- troughway 6y agoTo put it in a _slightly_ more direct way: HN is just as delusional as the rest of the world, more so in topics they have no understanding of whatsoever.
- kalaido 6y agoAgree. Obama stopped testing for swine flu - pandemic gone.
- rtp 6y agoIt's amazing how quickly people forget about Dunning-Kruger effect and how often people widely acclaimed for their academic prowess will reveal themselves ignorant when trying to act as an authority outside their field.d
- troughway 6y agoTurns from amazing to expected after awhile. The more I read the comments the more I agree with the Gell Man Amnesia Effect. I don't trust HN with any commentary about anything anymore - not even software development.
- dang 6y agoHN is an internet forum. Obviously you shouldn't trust it.
- Loughla 6y agoI honestly don't know why you're being downvoted. This board skews young, and techy. Not young and medical. Why would the comments or upvoted articles be any less problematic here than on facebook? Being really good at one thing (mostly tech) does not mean you're really good at all things. It's fascinating on this board right now. So many medical experts. So many people who are experts at what metric is the best and most relevant metric. So many people who are, I'm betting, talking out of their knowledge base, but doing it articulately, instead of through memes, so that makes it better?
- troughway 6y agoThey need to do away with downvotes and use flagging as a means of getting rid of trolls and low-effort posts - f.e. "lol" and such replies. The same drivel they harp on about how FB is stifling contrarian thinking is very well present on HN.
- matz1 6y agoHere is why I consider success: - shop can stay open normally - kids can go to school normally - not being forced to wear mask - low (very subjective, I know) death number
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- _jal 6y agoAnother detail that the new Sweden fans fail to mention is that over half of Swedish households are single-resident[1]. To put it mildly, this is... not the case in the US. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/526013/sweden-number-of-households-by-type/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/526013/sweden-number-of-...
- TulliusCicero 6y agoWhat? Your own link plainly contradicts your assertion. Only the first category is single resident, and even just the next two categories put together are clearly larger.
- _jal 6y agoYou are right, I don't know how to explain that chart. I was searching for a different one and got it instead. This was the one I meant to use: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/DDN-20170905-1 https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/D...? I cannot explain the difference between the two. I would trust the EU more than a facts compilation site, but YMMV.
- TulliusCicero 6y agoThat is certainly interesting, though the fact that we have heavily conflicting data concerns me. I'd look at the source, except it's hidden in Statista, behind a premium subscription. Wow, that's kind of dangerous.
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