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Creator of the spartapride.org website here! Crazy to see my name pop up in a hackernews post! This was actually a case of being too tech savy. When I setup sp

Creator of the spartapride.org website here! Crazy to see my name pop up in a hackernews post! This was actually a case of being too tech savy. When I setup spartapride I had all my tracker blockers on and because of that disqus was not loading (hence the like 30 more trackers not loading) Needless to say the nice people at themarkup contacted me and we had a nice interview/talk. I allowed the discus tracker through and saw the other 30 being loaded and was just like, "Yep.. that's not worth it" and I ended up removing discus from the site. :) Lesson learned.

GekkePrutser 6y ago
How do you justify including Facebook and Twitter though? Especially Facebook is known for abuse of their data and collects much more info than they say. Considering the sensitive nature of your topic and audience I personally wouldn't include them just for the sake of a like button :) If I were a transsexual in a highly homophobic organisation, even seeing a facebook like button on a website covering this topic would scare me off. But anyway at least the like buttons make it clear to your users that you do it. Much better than using transparent pixels and hidden cookies etc.
- 0xy 6y ago
  Indeed. Privacy focus and Facebook cookies are fundamentally opposite ideas. Her claims don't seem to make sense at all. "I don't track users [except sending your data straight to Facebook]" -- what does that even mean? It's a self contradictory position.
  - arkwin 6y ago
    Hello, on my actual account now that I'm on my computer. The answer to that is mostly I was overruled and leadership wanted to have a twitter and facebook feed on our website. Hands are tied on those two things.
    - 0xy 6y ago
      I understand and I've been in an identical position, but it means you can't make those sorts of claims.
    - krab 6y ago
      I saw a wrapper around these buttons that loads them grayed out (just placeholder images). Only when you interact with them, they are actually loaded. This way, only the users who actually want to use the buttons are tracked.

GekkePrutser 6y ago

How do you justify including Facebook and Twitter though? Especially Facebook is known for abuse of their data and collects much more info than they say. Considering the sensitive nature of your topic and audience I personally wouldn't include them just for the sake of a like button :) If I were a transsexual in a highly homophobic organisation, even seeing a facebook like button on a website covering this topic would scare me off. But anyway at least the like buttons make it clear to your users that you do it. Much better than using transparent pixels and hidden cookies etc.

0xy 6y ago
Indeed. Privacy focus and Facebook cookies are fundamentally opposite ideas. Her claims don't seem to make sense at all. "I don't track users [except sending your data straight to Facebook]" -- what does that even mean? It's a self contradictory position.
- arkwin 6y ago
  Hello, on my actual account now that I'm on my computer. The answer to that is mostly I was overruled and leadership wanted to have a twitter and facebook feed on our website. Hands are tied on those two things.
  - 0xy 6y ago
    I understand and I've been in an identical position, but it means you can't make those sorts of claims.
  - krab 6y ago
    I saw a wrapper around these buttons that loads them grayed out (just placeholder images). Only when you interact with them, they are actually loaded. This way, only the users who actually want to use the buttons are tracked.