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> There's no wide ranging cultural acceptance of sexually predatory behavior There is as long as the solution is "keep women away from sexual predators" instea

> There's no wide ranging cultural acceptance of sexually predatory behavior There is as long as the solution is "keep women away from sexual predators" instead of "keep sexual predators away from women". Keeping girls away from competitive sports is yet another example of "boys will be boys".

blackbear_ 6y ago
Nice word play, but what is a practical, pragmatic solution to achieve that?
- starkred 6y ago
  Teach your damn boys for once.
- mcguire 6y ago
  Actually investigate and prosecute reports rather than saying, "well, yeah, you shouldn't have been there." Make it economically infeasible for companies like Varsity and their related organizations to ignore. And yes, you will get a lot of push back, using libertarian, freedom-related arguments.
bena 6y ago
The issue is you cannot tell me what a sexual predator looks like. Or, more disturbingly, you can. Because they look like you, they look like me, they look like everyone. So a policy of "keep sexual predators away from children" just cannot work. That's a game you have to win every time. They just have to win once. One mistake and you've just allowed a predator access to children. And it's not like they'll stop. And note, I say children, not women, because we aren't talking about the abuse of adults, we're talking about people sexually preying on children. So I'm sorry. "Just stop criminals from committing crime" is a intellectually bankrupt argument. The issue is that the problem is vast and multifaceted. We have to balance safety with allowing these children access to these things. And on some level, these children will have to become proactive members of their own safety. Whether we want them to be or not, they will have to be responsible to some degree. And, no, it shouldn't be necessary. But we ultimately have to deal with the world as it is, not as it ought to be.

blackbear_ 6y ago

Nice word play, but what is a practical, pragmatic solution to achieve that?

starkred 6y ago
Teach your damn boys for once.
mcguire 6y ago
Actually investigate and prosecute reports rather than saying, "well, yeah, you shouldn't have been there." Make it economically infeasible for companies like Varsity and their related organizations to ignore. And yes, you will get a lot of push back, using libertarian, freedom-related arguments.

bena 6y ago

The issue is you cannot tell me what a sexual predator looks like. Or, more disturbingly, you can. Because they look like you, they look like me, they look like everyone. So a policy of "keep sexual predators away from children" just cannot work. That's a game you have to win every time. They just have to win once. One mistake and you've just allowed a predator access to children. And it's not like they'll stop. And note, I say children, not women, because we aren't talking about the abuse of adults, we're talking about people sexually preying on children. So I'm sorry. "Just stop criminals from committing crime" is a intellectually bankrupt argument. The issue is that the problem is vast and multifaceted. We have to balance safety with allowing these children access to these things. And on some level, these children will have to become proactive members of their own safety. Whether we want them to be or not, they will have to be responsible to some degree. And, no, it shouldn't be necessary. But we ultimately have to deal with the world as it is, not as it ought to be.