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That's completely detached from reality and pretty much signals that you probably don't interact with minorities much. As a non white immigrant, I can tell you

That's completely detached from reality and pretty much signals that you probably don't interact with minorities much. As a non white immigrant, I can tell you that in my experience most PoC are apolitical. Much more so than white males as you say. And that's not only true for first generation immigrants, but also for most of their children. Afro-americans are the only minority group I can think of that are actually pretty politically involved. So unless "white" only means "non black" for you, I really think you need to talk and get to know more "non whites".

tlogan 6y ago
I guess I hang out with ‘wrong’ minorities. My group are parents with kids in sf unified (I would say 80% non white). I probably live in my own bubble.
- mardifoufs 6y ago
  I think SF in general is a bubble, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It also depends also on the the economic class you belong to. In SF, and in tech especially, I'd say people are much more financially comfortable than the average. That means less urgent things to worry about, less work and more time for activism and that's regardless of race. There's a reason why historically the petit bourgeois were the vectors of revolution, radicalism, etc. Remember, first generation immigrants have chosen and often sacrified so much to be able to get here, of course they don't have as much things that they dislike than white people who have almost no other experience to compare things with. That inherent satisfaction directly means less interest in politics. So upper class second or third gen immigrants are much more into politics because... they are upper class. Not really because they aren't white. Because even then, I would still bet upper class white people are more politicized than PoC of the same economic class. Also, since I'd guess you are into politics, you are more likely to meet and bond with people who are into them too. If anything most of what I'm seeing these days is white people ,with huge white savior complexes & using minorities to score points, calling out other white people for not doing the same. Imo, I'd much, much rather be around an apolitical white friend who is just chill all around rather than be around someone who constantly thinks of me, my person & my identity as being political things because he's "on my side". I'm not saying that what you are doint at all, what I'm saying is that politics can dehumanize even people you think you are on the side of. ;)

tlogan 6y ago

I guess I hang out with ‘wrong’ minorities. My group are parents with kids in sf unified (I would say 80% non white). I probably live in my own bubble.

mardifoufs 6y ago
I think SF in general is a bubble, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It also depends also on the the economic class you belong to. In SF, and in tech especially, I'd say people are much more financially comfortable than the average. That means less urgent things to worry about, less work and more time for activism and that's regardless of race. There's a reason why historically the petit bourgeois were the vectors of revolution, radicalism, etc. Remember, first generation immigrants have chosen and often sacrified so much to be able to get here, of course they don't have as much things that they dislike than white people who have almost no other experience to compare things with. That inherent satisfaction directly means less interest in politics. So upper class second or third gen immigrants are much more into politics because... they are upper class. Not really because they aren't white. Because even then, I would still bet upper class white people are more politicized than PoC of the same economic class. Also, since I'd guess you are into politics, you are more likely to meet and bond with people who are into them too. If anything most of what I'm seeing these days is white people ,with huge white savior complexes & using minorities to score points, calling out other white people for not doing the same. Imo, I'd much, much rather be around an apolitical white friend who is just chill all around rather than be around someone who constantly thinks of me, my person & my identity as being political things because he's "on my side". I'm not saying that what you are doint at all, what I'm saying is that politics can dehumanize even people you think you are on the side of. ;)