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Apple makes money from people buying their hardware and services. They don’t make a significant amount of money from selling targeted advertisements. Amazon and
by jolux 6y ago
Apple makes money from people buying their hardware and services. They don’t make a significant amount of money from selling targeted advertisements. Amazon and Google do.
- anotherman554 6y agoApple will never have "enough" money and will do practically anything do get more money.
- OskarS 6y agoYou're missing the point. Apple makes money by people buying their products, and Apple sells more products when people trust them. Therefore, they have a strong financial incentive to be trustworthy and at least appear to care about user privacy. The best way to appear to care about user privacy is to actually care about it: they make no money selling private information to 3rd parties, so there's no point in doing it. Google, on the other hand, makes some money selling stuff to consumers, but they make a lot more money selling your data to whoever wants to buy ads. That's the business they're in. No one is saying "Apple is inherently good and Google is inherently evil". They're both amoral massive corporations that care about profits above all else. It just happens to be the case that Apple makes more money when they protect user privacy, and Google makes more money when they violate user privacy.
- ksk 6y ago> and Apple sells more products when people trust them. I am interested to know how you have estimated/measured this increase. Is it 1%? 20%? What does your data show?
- anotherman554 6y agoJust like Apple keeps changing the App store rules when they decide they can get more money by taxing developers, Apple will reduce privacy when they decide they can get more money, because they never have enough money. And it won't hurt Apple sales, because their competition is no better. You claim Apple sells more because people trust them. Unless people are going to stop using smart phones they have no choice to use Google or Apple devices, privacy violations and all.
- lern_too_spel 6y agoI agree that they have an incentive to care about privacy because they have so far been incompetent at using data for the benefit of their users. However, they still collect a lot of data in order to try to get better at providing user benefit. Consider that on iOS you cannot get your location without also giving your location to Apple or install an app without telling Apple. Competing platforms do not suffer from these privacy invading issues.
- mattigames 6y agoOnly because they have margins of more than 20 times the cost of manufacturing, the day they stop having success selling iphones and more at such huge margins is the same day they will use all that data to make money from targeted advertisement, some think that day will never come because they have loyal buyers but only time will tell.
- actuator 6y agoMaybe that's what Google has been trying to do here with diversifying their revenue sources, similar to what they are attempting to do with GCP. Look at the amount of control they have been adding on Pixel phones on what apps and services can access, even Google's.
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoThe difference is Google doesn't stop monetizing your data when they start selling premium hardware.
- actuator 6y agoHow do you know this to be true? Are they using Nest data to monetize something? Apple also tried their hands at iAds, in the end companies will do whatever works best for them. Considering Apple has made privacy a marketing feature for their devices, I am quite sure Google would want to have that playbook as well for their premium devices.
- SquareWheel 6y agoThey don't monetize your data when you pay them (GSuite).