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> The goal was to aim for perfection, a machine that is so reliable it wouldn't need to repair in the first place. You will have to excuse me, but that is a lo

> The goal was to aim for perfection, a machine that is so reliable it wouldn't need to repair in the first place. You will have to excuse me, but that is a load of bullcrap. Let's take the case that irritates me the most: The SSD. By definition of the technology that is NAND storage, an SSD will be able to operate "within norm" and without bit errors for so long. Rewrite for long enough and you'll see your data waving you good-bye. As for your other claims about recording errors and whatnot, you can EASILY achieve those (matter of fact it's already implemented in UEFI by some manufacturers), and NOT disallow people from repairing their computer. Sure the lifespan of an SSD is ideally 5/7 years. But that is a death sentence, not a search for perfection. Also, what happens if Apple simply refuses to fix your computer, or supply your with parts ! And yes this has happened rather publicly (Linus Sebastian's Mac Pro) So again, apologies for the language but that is a load of bullcrap

rimliu 6y ago
Who is Linus Sebastian, why should I care about him, and why I should consider his case typical?
- deleted 6y ago
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- IntelMiner 6y ago
  Linus Sebastian is the on screen presence behind "Linus Tech Tips" a Youtube channel of approximately 12 million subscribers
- smolder 6y ago
  That Linus is a YouTube star who reviews computer stuff. I like to think he got popular because his name is Linus and people mistook him for Torvalds or he came up in searches. I've seen a couple of his videos and he talks to the camera in a manner reminiscent of a young kids show host. I half expected him to start reciting the basic colors to me during a video about doing direct GPU passthrough on multiple VMs. Tone aside, and I know I'm not his core audience, it was a good presentation.
ksec 6y ago
>By definition of the technology that is NAND storage, an SSD You see, I dont disagree. Apple was striving for an ideal that is not achievable. What they are aiming, trying and actually doing are three different thing.
- starfallg 6y ago
  > Apple was striving for an ideal that is not achievable They are aiming for planned obsolescence. The biggest competitor for new MacBooks are old MacBooks.
  - fastball 6y ago
    > The biggest competitor for new MacBooks are old MacBooks. Maybe true 5-10 years ago, but not true now.
    - andybak 6y ago
      Replying from my 7 year old Macbook Air. This might be the last Apple product I'm buying.
      - bigbizisverywyz 6y ago
        Replying from my 6 year old Macbook pro, I would definitely consider buying a new one (space on my 256 GB SSD is getting tight, and it seems a bit of a waste to just upgrade that), but I am hesitant about the newer models.
    - starfallg 6y ago
      What has changed in the last 5 years? MacOS users have no legitimate alternative if they want to keep their desktop on macOS. If you want a macOS system legally, there's two options, either buy a new Mac, or an old one.
      - fastball 6y ago
        The competition has just done a lot of catching up in the last few years. Hardware: Other vendors have trackpads with multi-touch (which for me was one of the most amazing things about the first Macbook I ever owned), super high-res screens, and other such features these days. The form factors are thin and stylish as well (there are other aluminum unibody laptops these days). Software: MacOS has gotten worse, Linux distros have continued to catch up, both in the look and behavior of the OS itself but also in terms of the app ecosystem, esp with companies like Valve spending the big bucks to get lots of games running well on Linux. Speaking of games, MacOS continues to suck when it comes to gaming anyway – so for example I do a bit of gaming on my new MBP 16" and the mild chore of dual-booting continues to irk me. I also splashed out for the 8GB GPU upgrade and performance is still not great. Not quite enough for me to make the switch but I'm not a very hardcore gamer. I know people that need a workhorse a bit more than I do (professional video editors and such) who have recently (last 5 years) made the switch from macbooks to things like razers because they want to be able to really push through serious workloads on the go.
DanBC 6y ago
Reliability never means "will last for ever". It only ever means "a certain percentage of devices will last for at least a certain number of years".
bzzzt 6y ago
> By definition of the technology that is NAND storage, an SSD will be able to operate "within norm" and without bit errors for so long. Rewrite for long enough and you'll see your data waving you good-bye. The guarantee of a popular modern 1Tb NVME SSD is you'll at least be able to write 600Tb. I don't know your usage pattern, but those are a lot of write actions. Remember every component in any electronic device has a finite age: the fan cooling the cpu, keyboards have max. presses, hinges wear out, sockets have a maximum amount of plug/unplug actions. There's an advantage to soldering on memory, SSD etc: no chance of a bad connector causing problems. The entire class of problems fixed by 'reseating your DIMMS' is gone.

rimliu 6y ago

Who is Linus Sebastian, why should I care about him, and why I should consider his case typical?

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IntelMiner 6y ago
Linus Sebastian is the on screen presence behind "Linus Tech Tips" a Youtube channel of approximately 12 million subscribers
smolder 6y ago
That Linus is a YouTube star who reviews computer stuff. I like to think he got popular because his name is Linus and people mistook him for Torvalds or he came up in searches. I've seen a couple of his videos and he talks to the camera in a manner reminiscent of a young kids show host. I half expected him to start reciting the basic colors to me during a video about doing direct GPU passthrough on multiple VMs. Tone aside, and I know I'm not his core audience, it was a good presentation.

ksec 6y ago

>By definition of the technology that is NAND storage, an SSD You see, I dont disagree. Apple was striving for an ideal that is not achievable. What they are aiming, trying and actually doing are three different thing.

starfallg 6y ago
> Apple was striving for an ideal that is not achievable They are aiming for planned obsolescence. The biggest competitor for new MacBooks are old MacBooks.
- fastball 6y ago
  > The biggest competitor for new MacBooks are old MacBooks. Maybe true 5-10 years ago, but not true now.
  - andybak 6y ago
    Replying from my 7 year old Macbook Air. This might be the last Apple product I'm buying.
    - bigbizisverywyz 6y ago
      Replying from my 6 year old Macbook pro, I would definitely consider buying a new one (space on my 256 GB SSD is getting tight, and it seems a bit of a waste to just upgrade that), but I am hesitant about the newer models.
  - starfallg 6y ago
    What has changed in the last 5 years? MacOS users have no legitimate alternative if they want to keep their desktop on macOS. If you want a macOS system legally, there's two options, either buy a new Mac, or an old one.
    - fastball 6y ago
      The competition has just done a lot of catching up in the last few years. Hardware: Other vendors have trackpads with multi-touch (which for me was one of the most amazing things about the first Macbook I ever owned), super high-res screens, and other such features these days. The form factors are thin and stylish as well (there are other aluminum unibody laptops these days). Software: MacOS has gotten worse, Linux distros have continued to catch up, both in the look and behavior of the OS itself but also in terms of the app ecosystem, esp with companies like Valve spending the big bucks to get lots of games running well on Linux. Speaking of games, MacOS continues to suck when it comes to gaming anyway – so for example I do a bit of gaming on my new MBP 16" and the mild chore of dual-booting continues to irk me. I also splashed out for the 8GB GPU upgrade and performance is still not great. Not quite enough for me to make the switch but I'm not a very hardcore gamer. I know people that need a workhorse a bit more than I do (professional video editors and such) who have recently (last 5 years) made the switch from macbooks to things like razers because they want to be able to really push through serious workloads on the go.

DanBC 6y ago

Reliability never means "will last for ever". It only ever means "a certain percentage of devices will last for at least a certain number of years".

bzzzt 6y ago

> By definition of the technology that is NAND storage, an SSD will be able to operate "within norm" and without bit errors for so long. Rewrite for long enough and you'll see your data waving you good-bye. The guarantee of a popular modern 1Tb NVME SSD is you'll at least be able to write 600Tb. I don't know your usage pattern, but those are a lot of write actions. Remember every component in any electronic device has a finite age: the fan cooling the cpu, keyboards have max. presses, hinges wear out, sockets have a maximum amount of plug/unplug actions. There's an advantage to soldering on memory, SSD etc: no chance of a bad connector causing problems. The entire class of problems fixed by 'reseating your DIMMS' is gone.