> These are people who definitely could not get together the $8,000 for a 7 year old car in good condition, or get a loan at all besides a Payday one. They live

> These are people who definitely could not get together the $8,000 for a 7 year old car in good condition, or get a loan at all besides a Payday one. They live paycheck to paycheck. I also thought it was a bit funny that the parent poster cited an $8k purchase in a discussion about poverty. But either you're being a bit disingenuous yourself here or else you are similarly out of touch. Since you should know one can get a well-functioning used car for a lot less than that. Also in many countries, people take public transit at all income brackets. I've done it in the US for long periods myself. Personally I find it less stressful than driving in traffic.