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how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? in this market, the likelihood of maintaining a salary for 2-years, 5-years, 10-ye

how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? in this market, the likelihood of maintaining a salary for 2-years, 5-years, 10-years are so abysmally small compared to all the other lock-ins in life - housing, marriage, citizenship. i have the same angst when my salary was $50k/year as at $500k/year.

heavyset_go 6y ago
> how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? People plan for their careers early in their adult life, spend anywhere from close to half a decade to a decade or more studying for that career, and generally have an idea of what the market rate for labor in the role they want to work is. They also expect to, on average, make more money in the future than they did in the past as they advance in their career.
- jlokier 6y ago
  I assure you quite a lot of people don't plan their careers early in their adult life.
  - scarmig 6y ago
    I'm pretty sure most people reading this have spreadsheets that carefully plot expected lifetime earnings, carefully modeling different assumptions about general and healthcare inflation rates, anticipating likely tax code changes, etc., and don't know anyone who doesn't. But it would floor most HN readers to realize that probably around half of Americans have zero particular plans for the medium and long term, with a meaningful minority not having a clue about how to pay their bills next month.
vl 6y ago
> how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? Anyone with unionized job, or even better, government/public sector unionized job.
klyrs 6y ago
> how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? Folks can generally aim for a growth trajectory, irrespective of their specific employer, until their industry collapses. Which is kinda the point of UBI. This was true of my mom, grandma, and great grandma. Which is kinda the point of UBI: to restore the stability that once buoyed our society.

heavyset_go 6y ago

> how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? People plan for their careers early in their adult life, spend anywhere from close to half a decade to a decade or more studying for that career, and generally have an idea of what the market rate for labor in the role they want to work is. They also expect to, on average, make more money in the future than they did in the past as they advance in their career.

jlokier 6y ago
I assure you quite a lot of people don't plan their careers early in their adult life.
- scarmig 6y ago
  I'm pretty sure most people reading this have spreadsheets that carefully plot expected lifetime earnings, carefully modeling different assumptions about general and healthcare inflation rates, anticipating likely tax code changes, etc., and don't know anyone who doesn't. But it would floor most HN readers to realize that probably around half of Americans have zero particular plans for the medium and long term, with a meaningful minority not having a clue about how to pay their bills next month.

vl 6y ago

> how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? Anyone with unionized job, or even better, government/public sector unionized job.

klyrs 6y ago

> how many actually think of their jobs being decades-long certainties though? Folks can generally aim for a growth trajectory, irrespective of their specific employer, until their industry collapses. Which is kinda the point of UBI. This was true of my mom, grandma, and great grandma. Which is kinda the point of UBI: to restore the stability that once buoyed our society.