> The disclosure is there and Snowden made sure no one can declare themselves uninformed. I don't think I need to offer additional commentary on that claim, I

> The disclosure is there and Snowden made sure no one can declare themselves uninformed. I don't think I need to offer additional commentary on that claim, I think it kind of speaks for itself. > I'm not a big player, I don't make the rules, I play within them. Don't like the rules? Work on getting them changed. Don't like my funnels? Don't sign up. But at least on this one point, both of us seem to be completely agreed. The advertising industry is incapable of self-regulation, and there's no point in companies like Apple, Mozilla, DuckDuckGo, or Fastmail having a 'dialog' over blocking 3rd-party cookies, auto-denying permission prompts, blocking device IDs, and caching assets serverside in emails. They just need to push their privacy changes and stop pretending that the advertising industry is interested in holding itself to a responsible standard. There is no realistic scenario where tracking mechanisms are left open and marketers commit to only using them responsibly. This was Apple's mistake a few weeks ago with device IDs, where they backpedaled just because Facebook was angry. Platforms can't negotiate with advertisers, they just have to change the rules and let them complain. Ultimately, the conversation we've had here hasn't boiled down to some kind of philosophical disagreement about the nature of privacy or how different concerns should be balanced, your position is just that you're going to do anything you're legally allowed to do, and if anyone feels violated by that, it's their fault for not stopping you. That's not a philosophy that's worth negotiating or debating with.