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I'll be very interested to see what happens to OBS now that Nvidia is directly competing with them with Nvidia Broadcast: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/n

by jjcm 6y ago

I'll be very interested to see what happens to OBS now that Nvidia is directly competing with them with Nvidia Broadcast: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-broadcast-app/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-broadcast-a... While it's community supported (though only at 2.5k/mo) I highly suspect that NB is going to outperform OBS in the coming years, just given the market Nvidia is trying to capture. Most youtubers / streamers don't need the full configuration capabilities of OBS, but rather just want something that works out of the box with the basic nice to haves (overlays, noise cancellation, basic text compositing / donation integrations).

gruez 6y ago
Isn't nvidia broadcast just some tools that plug into your existing streaming software? >NVIDIA Broadcast is a universal plugin that works with most popular live streaming, voice chat and video conferencing apps. It’s supported on any NVIDIA GeForce RTX, TITAN RTX or Quadro RTX GPU, using their dedicated Tensor Core AI processors to help the app’s AI networks run in real-time, right alongside your games.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  Can't you describe any software as 'just some tools'? If the tools do what you want and achieve the same things as OBS then isn't that what you want?
- jjcm 6y ago
  It's a bit of both. It can configure itself to be a virtual camera (similar to OBS), which could then be consumed by OBS. It also has built in features for directly streaming to twitch/youtube/etc and skipping OBS entirely. Likely an embrace, extend, and extinguish strategy on their part.
  - Warchamp7 6y ago
    > It also has built in features for directly streaming to twitch/youtube/etc and skipping OBS entirely. This is not true lol
    - jjcm 6y ago
      Sorry, you're correct. The stream to twitch/youtube/etc is part of Nvidia's Geforce experience, which Nvidia Broadcast can tie into.
  - numlock86 6y ago
    > It can configure itself to be a virtual camera (similar to OBS) [...] OBS can be used as a virtual camera? I assume not out of the box but only with some third party software/plugin, right?
    - Warchamp7 6y ago
      There was a plugin available for a few years now, but as of this release (Version 26.0) there is official support for it out of the box
taurath 6y ago
OBS is worlds ahead - Nvidia only wins if they somehow cripple OBS on Nvidia graphics
- ls612 6y ago
  I’ve had quality issues with NVENC on OBS at 4K that went away if I either used cpu encoding in OBS or used NVENC with Shadowplay. I don’t know what caused this (I have a 1080) but it was super frustrating
wegs 6y ago
This seems like crap. It adds virtual every crappy Google Meet feature which makes it unusable for any sort of serious remote learning or remote work. If you set up your cameras and microphone correctly, you don't want or need any of that stuff. And you can get adequate cameras and microphones for a fraction of the cost of even a basic NVidia RTX card. I guess it's helpful if you're rich, stupid, and incompetent?
bredren 6y ago
Twitch also has its own broadcasting tool it is pushing.
wegs 6y ago
Well, my original post got flagged and disappeared, so I'll try again. This does not compete with OBS. It's useless for people doing remote well. If you're doing remote teaching, learning, or work well, you have an appropriate camera and microphone setup. Microphone should be close to the mouth (headset or similar), and because of power laws, at reasonable amplification, it will pick up almost no background noise. You should be using headphones/headset, and microphone won't pick up speaker noise, which is the other major source of audio issues. That can even be had with a $5 gas station headset. The audio noise / issue cleanup is for people who can't/won't/don't do this. Automatic camera cropping is an anti-feature. You want to be able to show people things (whether kids holding up STEM projects, or business presentations showing tools and slides), and have cameras set up appropriately for that. Tools like Google Meet and Microsoft Teams become unusable for serious remote interactions precisely because of autocropping. It's possible to buy hardware to do remote well for <$100, and likely <$50 if you're thrifty. An RTX card costs hundreds of dollars. The NVidia tool is helpful if you're rich, stupid, /and/ incompetent. OBS is helpful is you're competent, willing to do the work to learn new things and do things well, and then set up a proper remote work setup. It's a different crowd. I suspect I got flagged since I criticized Google Meet for doing annoying things like autocropping. I apologize to all Googlers. I was wrong. You were right. When I present a document camera, with my face in the corner, my video conferencing tool SHOULD autocrop what I'm writing. If I'm presenting a PPT behind me, Google is smart to autocrop my presentation. Google is right. Google is always right. Since Google is always right, if I disagree with Google or criticize Google, Googlers are right to remove me from the Internet.

by jjcm 6y ago

gruez 6y ago

Isn't nvidia broadcast just some tools that plug into your existing streaming software? >NVIDIA Broadcast is a universal plugin that works with most popular live streaming, voice chat and video conferencing apps. It’s supported on any NVIDIA GeForce RTX, TITAN RTX or Quadro RTX GPU, using their dedicated Tensor Core AI processors to help the app’s AI networks run in real-time, right alongside your games.

chrisseaton 6y ago
Can't you describe any software as 'just some tools'? If the tools do what you want and achieve the same things as OBS then isn't that what you want?
jjcm 6y ago
It's a bit of both. It can configure itself to be a virtual camera (similar to OBS), which could then be consumed by OBS. It also has built in features for directly streaming to twitch/youtube/etc and skipping OBS entirely. Likely an embrace, extend, and extinguish strategy on their part.
- Warchamp7 6y ago
  > It also has built in features for directly streaming to twitch/youtube/etc and skipping OBS entirely. This is not true lol
  - jjcm 6y ago
    Sorry, you're correct. The stream to twitch/youtube/etc is part of Nvidia's Geforce experience, which Nvidia Broadcast can tie into.
- numlock86 6y ago
  > It can configure itself to be a virtual camera (similar to OBS) [...] OBS can be used as a virtual camera? I assume not out of the box but only with some third party software/plugin, right?
  - Warchamp7 6y ago
    There was a plugin available for a few years now, but as of this release (Version 26.0) there is official support for it out of the box

taurath 6y ago

OBS is worlds ahead - Nvidia only wins if they somehow cripple OBS on Nvidia graphics

ls612 6y ago
I’ve had quality issues with NVENC on OBS at 4K that went away if I either used cpu encoding in OBS or used NVENC with Shadowplay. I don’t know what caused this (I have a 1080) but it was super frustrating

wegs 6y ago

This seems like crap. It adds virtual every crappy Google Meet feature which makes it unusable for any sort of serious remote learning or remote work. If you set up your cameras and microphone correctly, you don't want or need any of that stuff. And you can get adequate cameras and microphones for a fraction of the cost of even a basic NVidia RTX card. I guess it's helpful if you're rich, stupid, and incompetent?

bredren 6y ago

Twitch also has its own broadcasting tool it is pushing.

wegs 6y ago

Well, my original post got flagged and disappeared, so I'll try again. This does not compete with OBS. It's useless for people doing remote well. If you're doing remote teaching, learning, or work well, you have an appropriate camera and microphone setup. Microphone should be close to the mouth (headset or similar), and because of power laws, at reasonable amplification, it will pick up almost no background noise. You should be using headphones/headset, and microphone won't pick up speaker noise, which is the other major source of audio issues. That can even be had with a $5 gas station headset. The audio noise / issue cleanup is for people who can't/won't/don't do this. Automatic camera cropping is an anti-feature. You want to be able to show people things (whether kids holding up STEM projects, or business presentations showing tools and slides), and have cameras set up appropriately for that. Tools like Google Meet and Microsoft Teams become unusable for serious remote interactions precisely because of autocropping. It's possible to buy hardware to do remote well for <$100, and likely <$50 if you're thrifty. An RTX card costs hundreds of dollars. The NVidia tool is helpful if you're rich, stupid, /and/ incompetent. OBS is helpful is you're competent, willing to do the work to learn new things and do things well, and then set up a proper remote work setup. It's a different crowd. I suspect I got flagged since I criticized Google Meet for doing annoying things like autocropping. I apologize to all Googlers. I was wrong. You were right. When I present a document camera, with my face in the corner, my video conferencing tool SHOULD autocrop what I'm writing. If I'm presenting a PPT behind me, Google is smart to autocrop my presentation. Google is right. Google is always right. Since Google is always right, if I disagree with Google or criticize Google, Googlers are right to remove me from the Internet.