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I think vegan/fake "meat" and lab-grown meat are/should be marketed as two different things, the later still being meat that happens to grown in a lab. I'm not

I think vegan/fake "meat" and lab-grown meat are/should be marketed as two different things, the later still being meat that happens to grown in a lab. I'm not sure why people would be interested to consume meat grown in a lab considering all the unknowns/risks.

rsynnott 6y ago
> I'm not sure why people would be interested to consume meat grown in a lab considering all the unknowns/risks. Which ones? In general, most food-borne illnesses are a result of either faecal contamination, diseased animals, or poor post-production handling. 'Lab-grown' meat should be generally free of the first two. Obviously nothing's perfect, but it should in general be much easier to avoid contamination than in a slaughterhouse.
- thefounder 6y ago
  >> In general, most food-borne illnesses There is a risk of contamination in a lab as well and to be honest I don't understand why this kind of food is not subject to clinical trials. Some people(at least in the EU) try to avoid food resulted from livestock injected with hormones or other syntetic chemicals. Now you tell them to eat food grown(with hormones) in a lab. I can't give you a good source on the subject so below is the first google result. "most of the studies on safety are done or supported by the companies themselves.” "It’s also long been known that breast cancer risk increases with higher lifetime exposure to estrogen. These facts have led many to question whether the continued use of synthetic estrogens in livestock is safe." "The effects are very hard to study, experts say, because hormones are naturally present in both food and our bodies. Plus, the effects could be subtle and take years to show up." https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/safer-food-healthier-you https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/safer-food-healthier-you
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    > There is a risk of contamination in a lab as well Sure, but if it happens you can detect, determine what the problem was with the process, and fix it. With a slaughterhouse, you can reduce levels of contamination, certainly, but eliminating it is probably impractical; a certain risk is inherent to the process. > and to be honest I don't understand why this kind of food is not subject to clinical trials Right now, lab grown meat is effectively not commercially available, and being treated as a weird experimental thing. If it does become commercially available, it will presumably be subject to significant regulation. > Some people(at least in the EU) try to avoid food resulted from livestock injected with hormones or other syntetic chemicals Generally growth hormones for farm animals are _illegal_ in the EU. And you could reasonably expect similar rules to come in for any synthetic meat that might be available.
swiley 6y ago
Personally I would completely switch to lab grown meat immediately as long as it seemed safe and was reasonably affordable. I'm not a fan of eating animals but it's already hard enough to have a healthy diet without artificially restricting things, right now it just doesn't make sense for me.

rsynnott 6y ago

> I'm not sure why people would be interested to consume meat grown in a lab considering all the unknowns/risks. Which ones? In general, most food-borne illnesses are a result of either faecal contamination, diseased animals, or poor post-production handling. 'Lab-grown' meat should be generally free of the first two. Obviously nothing's perfect, but it should in general be much easier to avoid contamination than in a slaughterhouse.

thefounder 6y ago
>> In general, most food-borne illnesses There is a risk of contamination in a lab as well and to be honest I don't understand why this kind of food is not subject to clinical trials. Some people(at least in the EU) try to avoid food resulted from livestock injected with hormones or other syntetic chemicals. Now you tell them to eat food grown(with hormones) in a lab. I can't give you a good source on the subject so below is the first google result. "most of the studies on safety are done or supported by the companies themselves.” "It’s also long been known that breast cancer risk increases with higher lifetime exposure to estrogen. These facts have led many to question whether the continued use of synthetic estrogens in livestock is safe." "The effects are very hard to study, experts say, because hormones are naturally present in both food and our bodies. Plus, the effects could be subtle and take years to show up." https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/safer-food-healthier-you https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/safer-food-healthier-you
- rsynnott 6y ago
  > There is a risk of contamination in a lab as well Sure, but if it happens you can detect, determine what the problem was with the process, and fix it. With a slaughterhouse, you can reduce levels of contamination, certainly, but eliminating it is probably impractical; a certain risk is inherent to the process. > and to be honest I don't understand why this kind of food is not subject to clinical trials Right now, lab grown meat is effectively not commercially available, and being treated as a weird experimental thing. If it does become commercially available, it will presumably be subject to significant regulation. > Some people(at least in the EU) try to avoid food resulted from livestock injected with hormones or other syntetic chemicals Generally growth hormones for farm animals are _illegal_ in the EU. And you could reasonably expect similar rules to come in for any synthetic meat that might be available.

swiley 6y ago

Personally I would completely switch to lab grown meat immediately as long as it seemed safe and was reasonably affordable. I'm not a fan of eating animals but it's already hard enough to have a healthy diet without artificially restricting things, right now it just doesn't make sense for me.