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> The overall rate of 7.7 serious injuries per 100 employees was 33% higher than in 2016 and nearly double the most recent industry standard. This seems extrao

by davisr 6y ago

> The overall rate of 7.7 serious injuries per 100 employees was 33% higher than in 2016 and nearly double the most recent industry standard. This seems extraordinarily high. I wouldn't accept that risk. Makes me all the happier that I closed my Amazon account.

Droobfest 6y ago
I wonder if Amazon really skews that industry standard so they might even have way more than double the injuries of other warehouses
Aperocky 6y ago
The article defined serious injury as > those requiring days off or job restrictions. Meanwhile OSHA defined serious injury here: https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/1993-09-02 https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/1993-... Exerpt: > 1 Impairment of the body in which part of the body is made functionally useless or is substantially reduced in efficiency on or off the job. Such impairment may be permanent or temporary, chronic or acute. Injuries involving such impairment would usually require treatment by a medical doctor. Examples of injuries which constitute such harm include: a Amputation (loss of all or part of a bodily appendage which includes the loss of bone). b Concussion. c Crushing (internal, even through skin surface may be intact). d Fracture (simple or compound). e Burns or scald, including electric and chemical burns. f Cut, laceration, or puncture involving significant bleeding and/or requiring suturing. The differences in standards (which the article does mention in passing, but in no details) is a potential differentiator.
- sct202 6y ago
  There could be a mismatch with the national statistics, but the Amazon data has rates by year and warehouse type so the upward trend is still bad. I know at the factory/distribution center I worked at once upon a time, we tracked OSHA recordables / hour.
- coldtea 6y ago
  >The article defined serious injury as "those requiring days off or job restrictions." Given what we know about the working conditions there (threatened to be fired for any sick day, wearing adult diapers to avoid bathroom breaks, etc.) getting a medical day off in an Amazon wharehouse scenario means something like your leg was cut off or you're bleeding green blood...
throwanem 6y ago
Likewise. The real surprise has been how much I haven't regretted doing that - small business ecommerce turns out to be alive and well, despite all Amazon and I guess Walmart's efforts to the contrary.

by davisr 6y ago

Droobfest 6y ago

I wonder if Amazon really skews that industry standard so they might even have way more than double the injuries of other warehouses

Aperocky 6y ago

The article defined serious injury as > those requiring days off or job restrictions. Meanwhile OSHA defined serious injury here: https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/1993-09-02 https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/1993-... Exerpt: > 1 Impairment of the body in which part of the body is made functionally useless or is substantially reduced in efficiency on or off the job. Such impairment may be permanent or temporary, chronic or acute. Injuries involving such impairment would usually require treatment by a medical doctor. Examples of injuries which constitute such harm include: a Amputation (loss of all or part of a bodily appendage which includes the loss of bone). b Concussion. c Crushing (internal, even through skin surface may be intact). d Fracture (simple or compound). e Burns or scald, including electric and chemical burns. f Cut, laceration, or puncture involving significant bleeding and/or requiring suturing. The differences in standards (which the article does mention in passing, but in no details) is a potential differentiator.

sct202 6y ago
There could be a mismatch with the national statistics, but the Amazon data has rates by year and warehouse type so the upward trend is still bad. I know at the factory/distribution center I worked at once upon a time, we tracked OSHA recordables / hour.
coldtea 6y ago
>The article defined serious injury as "those requiring days off or job restrictions." Given what we know about the working conditions there (threatened to be fired for any sick day, wearing adult diapers to avoid bathroom breaks, etc.) getting a medical day off in an Amazon wharehouse scenario means something like your leg was cut off or you're bleeding green blood...

throwanem 6y ago

Likewise. The real surprise has been how much I haven't regretted doing that - small business ecommerce turns out to be alive and well, despite all Amazon and I guess Walmart's efforts to the contrary.