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As an Indian residing in India this certainly feels so. Things have become bad enough that people self-censor. People have been arrested for sharing jokes abou

by srean 6y ago

As an Indian residing in India this certainly feels so. Things have become bad enough that people self-censor. People have been arrested for sharing jokes about politicians to their personal friends over email or social media. Some have been heckled and beaten up. Such people have no recourse. Even if the local govt pretends to act, the perpetrators immediately gets a bail, because the courts are very much in bed with the politics, more so at the lower courts. Made up and nonbailable charges have been slapped on university professors who have criticized the government. They are not tried on the usual court but handled by a special anti-terrorism body called the NIA that has special powers and provisions to secrecy that ordinary courts do not have. https://scroll.in/article/959082/i-cant-counter-state-propaganda-anand-teltumbes-open-letter-a-day-before-he-is-to-be-arrested https://scroll.in/article/959082/i-cant-counter-state-propag... Political opponents are harassed by income tax raids even when nothing much come put of the raids. Its just an intimidation tactic where people with government authorization tear your apartment apart and grab documents that they can hold on to as long as they want for the harassments value.

nilsocket 6y ago
Okay you follow fake news scroll. Real story about Bhima Koregaon, https://www.opindia.com/2018/01/battle-of-koregaon-lessons-in-unity/ https://www.opindia.com/2018/01/battle-of-koregaon-lessons-i... Don't say OpIndia is right-wing citing Wikipedia and non-sense. How about you counter this with proper sources, like it is done in the above article with primary sources. Or else, you will be spreading fake news.
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- srean 6y ago
  True because it was posted on opindia ? Sorry I don't take my driving instructions from a propaganda outlet whose editor has admitted [0] on twitter that it had been a political outlet. Once they approach the neighborhood of Teltumbde credibility and service built up through decades, I will think about it. > Okay you follow fake news scroll. > Don't say OpIndia is right-wing citing Wikipedia and non-sense. Oh the irony ! I didn't name call, [0] has a link to a spreadsheet that documents just a few (some 40 odd) of opindia's efforts at propaganda by airing fake news and deliberately slanted misreporting. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299
  - nilsocket 6y ago
    Okay, I don't know regarding OpIndia. The reason why I have posted that link is because True-Indology website is slightly broken. https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/koregaon-ka-kora-sach/ https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/koregaon-ka-ko... I'm sorry to inform, what you consider as ultimate source of truth ALT-News is nothing but a propaganda website. Here alt-news have done a hit job on true-indology: https://www.altnews.in/trueindology-truefraudology-debunking-goldmine-fictitious-historical-claims/ https://www.altnews.in/trueindology-truefraudology-debunking... Here is clear rebuttal from him, for the lies which ALT-News is spreading against him. https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/alt-news-or-fraud-news-shameless-campaign-of-lies-and-defamation/ https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/alt-news-or-fr... Let me tell you, ALT-News didn't have the courtesy and they weren't humble enough to say they were wrong, it's been three years. Nor can they write a rebuttal. My point clearly stays the same, you are just spreading fake news. Edit: I have never shared any link which is sited as fake news from OPIndia in your document. I'm not a fake peddler like you. True Indology have taken up idols of left like Irafan Habib, ... and other western historians. All they could do is block him without any rebuttal. Look at you, how you are keeping on goal-shifting the discussion. I asked you to refute article, without discussing about OPIndia, you have done exactly same (Goal-shift). I asked you to refute AR.Ranganathan points, once again you have done the same just pass it. For your Information, I'm not a BJP shill. I just like to stand with truth. It seems you are completely against it. Once again to bust your bubble, I'm not a low self-esteemed person, I very much know what I'm capable of. I'm 23 and I'm humble enough to learn if I was wrong, not an arrogant, who keeps goal-shifting and spread fake news.
    - srean 6y ago
      > I'm sorry to inform, what you consider as ultimate source of truth ALT-News is nothing but a propaganda website. I have said nothing about alt-news. First time I heard of them. Its you who started quoting from opindia in gay abandon all over two stories on HN. Same links again and again. At that point you gave the impression to the rest of the HN audience that they were a reliable source. Its only when you got caught out on how shady the source is ( [0] admission on twitter by the editors of OpIndia and 43 cases of fake news) that you now invent an excuse for quoting them. A person is known by the sources one quotes. You attempted to school me on Koregaon history and on NorthEast. Not sure why, because I was referring to Teltumbde incarceration by the NIA and charges brought on him by the UAPA act that does not even require the charges of terrorism to be proved. Oh such an inconvenience of proving things, lets just put people in jail just because they disagree. You may claim not to be a shill, your behavior on HN has been indistinguishable from them. >I asked you to refute AR.Ranganathan I see, I should be taking orders from you on whom I should not refute (opindia) and whom I should. OK. I refuse to get dragged into the muck that you want to drag us into. I think I have made a good enough case to show your intentions by calling out a source that you have been using repeatedly. That's enough of dumpster garbage harvesting for me for a day. The less I do those the better for me. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299

by srean 6y ago

nilsocket 6y ago

Okay you follow fake news scroll. Real story about Bhima Koregaon, https://www.opindia.com/2018/01/battle-of-koregaon-lessons-in-unity/ https://www.opindia.com/2018/01/battle-of-koregaon-lessons-i... Don't say OpIndia is right-wing citing Wikipedia and non-sense. How about you counter this with proper sources, like it is done in the above article with primary sources. Or else, you will be spreading fake news.

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srean 6y ago
True because it was posted on opindia ? Sorry I don't take my driving instructions from a propaganda outlet whose editor has admitted [0] on twitter that it had been a political outlet. Once they approach the neighborhood of Teltumbde credibility and service built up through decades, I will think about it. > Okay you follow fake news scroll. > Don't say OpIndia is right-wing citing Wikipedia and non-sense. Oh the irony ! I didn't name call, [0] has a link to a spreadsheet that documents just a few (some 40 odd) of opindia's efforts at propaganda by airing fake news and deliberately slanted misreporting. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299
- nilsocket 6y ago
  Okay, I don't know regarding OpIndia. The reason why I have posted that link is because True-Indology website is slightly broken. https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/koregaon-ka-kora-sach/ https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/koregaon-ka-ko... I'm sorry to inform, what you consider as ultimate source of truth ALT-News is nothing but a propaganda website. Here alt-news have done a hit job on true-indology: https://www.altnews.in/trueindology-truefraudology-debunking-goldmine-fictitious-historical-claims/ https://www.altnews.in/trueindology-truefraudology-debunking... Here is clear rebuttal from him, for the lies which ALT-News is spreading against him. https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/alt-news-or-fraud-news-shameless-campaign-of-lies-and-defamation/ https://trueindology.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/alt-news-or-fr... Let me tell you, ALT-News didn't have the courtesy and they weren't humble enough to say they were wrong, it's been three years. Nor can they write a rebuttal. My point clearly stays the same, you are just spreading fake news. Edit: I have never shared any link which is sited as fake news from OPIndia in your document. I'm not a fake peddler like you. True Indology have taken up idols of left like Irafan Habib, ... and other western historians. All they could do is block him without any rebuttal. Look at you, how you are keeping on goal-shifting the discussion. I asked you to refute article, without discussing about OPIndia, you have done exactly same (Goal-shift). I asked you to refute AR.Ranganathan points, once again you have done the same just pass it. For your Information, I'm not a BJP shill. I just like to stand with truth. It seems you are completely against it. Once again to bust your bubble, I'm not a low self-esteemed person, I very much know what I'm capable of. I'm 23 and I'm humble enough to learn if I was wrong, not an arrogant, who keeps goal-shifting and spread fake news.
  - srean 6y ago
    > I'm sorry to inform, what you consider as ultimate source of truth ALT-News is nothing but a propaganda website. I have said nothing about alt-news. First time I heard of them. Its you who started quoting from opindia in gay abandon all over two stories on HN. Same links again and again. At that point you gave the impression to the rest of the HN audience that they were a reliable source. Its only when you got caught out on how shady the source is ( [0] admission on twitter by the editors of OpIndia and 43 cases of fake news) that you now invent an excuse for quoting them. A person is known by the sources one quotes. You attempted to school me on Koregaon history and on NorthEast. Not sure why, because I was referring to Teltumbde incarceration by the NIA and charges brought on him by the UAPA act that does not even require the charges of terrorism to be proved. Oh such an inconvenience of proving things, lets just put people in jail just because they disagree. You may claim not to be a shill, your behavior on HN has been indistinguishable from them. >I asked you to refute AR.Ranganathan I see, I should be taking orders from you on whom I should not refute (opindia) and whom I should. OK. I refuse to get dragged into the muck that you want to drag us into. I think I have made a good enough case to show your intentions by calling out a source that you have been using repeatedly. That's enough of dumpster garbage harvesting for me for a day. The less I do those the better for me. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24632299