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Your idea of freedom of speech means I'm not free to criticize you.

lightgreen 6y ago
Constructively criticise, yes please. But bullying, eg doxxing, petitioning to get fired, calling mob to intimidate etc, that's not exactly freedom of speech.
- colinmhayes 6y ago
  > But bullying, eg doxxing, petitioning to get fired, calling mob to intimidate etc, that's not exactly freedom of speech. Yes it is. It's the best way to fight back against speech you disagree with.
  - lightgreen 6y ago
    Well, I must admit I respect you for your consistent views, although I radically disagree with you. I only wish you not to get into the place and time where you are in the opposition to the aggressive majority. It's quite uncomfortable.
    - colinmhayes 6y ago
      It's quite uncomfortable to watch people be radicalized by disinformation.
  - goatlover 6y ago
    So you wish to suppress speech you don’t like in the absence of government power to do so. Imagine doing this to a religious persuasion and calling that support for freedom of religion.
  - megaman821 6y ago
    I only hope you are in the small, small, small minority. Intimidating people not to speak is not freedom of speech. You may think intimidation is good when it is attacking something you disagree with, but given enough time you will be on the receiving side.
  - nobody9999 6y ago
    >Yes it is. It's the best way to fight back against speech you disagree with. While nearly 100 years old, I think Justice Brandeis had it nailed[0]: "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the process of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence." [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_v._California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_v._California
sergeykish 6y ago
Guys, your are perfect example of trigger happy mob. This is the cause of cooling effect. Why would anyone reasonable touch hot topic if you can't even read it without blazing emotions?
- renewiltord 6y ago
  I think I've been quite polite and civil here but if you want to provide feedback without being subject to voting here, my email is in my profile. How am I driving? Let renewiltord@protonmail.com know!

Constructively criticise, yes please. But bullying, eg doxxing, petitioning to get fired, calling mob to intimidate etc, that's not exactly freedom of speech.

colinmhayes 6y ago
> But bullying, eg doxxing, petitioning to get fired, calling mob to intimidate etc, that's not exactly freedom of speech. Yes it is. It's the best way to fight back against speech you disagree with.
- lightgreen 6y ago
  Well, I must admit I respect you for your consistent views, although I radically disagree with you. I only wish you not to get into the place and time where you are in the opposition to the aggressive majority. It's quite uncomfortable.
  - colinmhayes 6y ago
    It's quite uncomfortable to watch people be radicalized by disinformation.
- goatlover 6y ago
  So you wish to suppress speech you don’t like in the absence of government power to do so. Imagine doing this to a religious persuasion and calling that support for freedom of religion.
- megaman821 6y ago
  I only hope you are in the small, small, small minority. Intimidating people not to speak is not freedom of speech. You may think intimidation is good when it is attacking something you disagree with, but given enough time you will be on the receiving side.
- nobody9999 6y ago
  >Yes it is. It's the best way to fight back against speech you disagree with. While nearly 100 years old, I think Justice Brandeis had it nailed[0]: "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the process of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence." [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_v._California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_v._California

sergeykish 6y ago

Guys, your are perfect example of trigger happy mob. This is the cause of cooling effect. Why would anyone reasonable touch hot topic if you can't even read it without blazing emotions?

renewiltord 6y ago
I think I've been quite polite and civil here but if you want to provide feedback without being subject to voting here, my email is in my profile. How am I driving? Let renewiltord@protonmail.com know!