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The conversation involves both.

• hnlmorg 6y ago
  No it doesn't. By your own admission: > They're explicitly talking about not logging into machines for log access. Why can't you just admit that you didn't read the thread properly rather than insulting all of our intelligence with these piss poor mental gymnastics where you redefine the context of what people had very clearly written.
  • R0b0t1 6y ago
    Because I read the thread? How many times do you want me to repeat myself? They're talking about the specific case of not logging in for log access, but that is partially justified by the wider desire to never have people log in at all. You can separate them but the original conversation didn't.
    • hnlmorg 6y ago
      > You can separate them but the original conversation didn't. The conversation you're replying to, however, did. I know this for a fact because I was involved in that conversation and I made that distinction myself ;)