Hi yardie, I agree, which is why I only very briefly bring up the Hello World stuff (it's a tradition after all :-)), and then state "Ok, this stuff is boring,

Hi yardie, I agree, which is why I only very briefly bring up the Hello World stuff (it's a tradition after all :-)), and then state "Ok, this stuff is boring, right? Let's write some real stuff." And the rest of the tutorial is about building something real and complete (albeit simple). Maybe I should extend the example app a bit, and talk about databases, too. Oh, and please note, the "book" is only about 35% complete, so there is more to come!