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Use voice dictation. It works remarkably well for entering text

Swenrekcah 6y ago
Well, thanks for the suggestion, I didn't know it was an option. But what if I need to input a language that's not supported or I just don't want to yell at my TV to search a video?
- quickthrowman 6y ago
  If you have an iPhone, you should get a prompt to enter text on your phone when you’re in an Apple TV search field.
- piva00 6y ago
  Then my iPhone pops up a "Keyboard Input" notification with a text input that I can type from the phone without unlocking it. Of course, if you don't have your phone nearby it might suck but let's be realistic, how often you don't have your phone close by when watching TV? P.S.: Yes, I know, if you are an Android user there is no way out and Apple sucks for that, not defending them at all.
  - Swenrekcah 6y ago
    This is a company supposedly famous for great user interfaces and usability. Why not try to live up to it? There are actually many times I don't have my phone with me while watching TV. I carry it with me everywhere all day, but I try to keep it on the table most of the time when at home.
    - auggierose 6y ago
      Apple TV has bluetooth, so if this is really an issue for you, why not get a dedicated TV keyboard?
      - Swenrekcah 6y ago
        Why can't they just fix their user interface? Nobody in the world I have talked to thinks this is the best choice of interfaces. I don't need a dedicated TV keyboard. As I said, I work around it by using the TV apps, but it's annoying, and the most annoying part is that it's probably annoying on purpose to get people more on their phone.
        auggierose 6y ago
        I don't think it is on purpose to get people on their phone. Most people just don't use the keyboard much, I would guess. I never do, except for signing up for new apps. So I would agree with their design decision: make an elegant remote, use voice dictation for search and the like, if you need a keyboard, use your iPhone, and if you are not happy with that, get a dedicated keyboard. If you are not happy with THAT, well ...
        Swenrekcah 6y ago
        I am spending way more energy on this thread than is healthy :D But I can understand where you're coming from, I am just very frustrated that this user-interface-design-genius trillion dollar company can not change the input mechanism of one of their most used product from the: a b c d e [f] g h i j k etc... Backspace model with only <-> movement and no way to make an input correction other than backspace, to something like: a b c d Backspace e f [g] h forward i j k l backward m n o p Which is the way almost all other TV-centered apps I use function and works much better.
        auggierose 6y ago
        Yeah, I get your point now.
        chipotle_coyote 6y ago
        I doubt it's annoying on purpose to get more people on the phone. I could be wrong about that, but that's not usually the way Apple's particular kind of hubris tends to manifest. There's almost certainly people at the company -- and it only takes one or two in the right places -- who like the current UI for text selection, and would probably explain why they think so. Now, they may literally be the same people who think the Apple TV remote is good in the first place, so I want to make it clear I'm not saying they're right. :) And, Apple should be better at UI design than this. They were once, and not that long ago, but I think the UI team they've had for the last, oh, let's say seven or eight years -- going back semi-arbitrarily to iOS 7, but steadily infecting all other platforms -- have prioritized aesthetics over usability.
ClumsyPilot 6y ago
Try entering something like 'Les Misérables' or "into to Kubernetes"
- bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
  Although inconvenient, it does let you dictate individual letters. Which is almost as fast as tap-typing on a phone.
- wil421 6y ago
  Does the first one work when a French person pronounces it?
- cyberdrunk 6y ago
  > "into to Kubernetes" That could be a movie about absurdity and meaninglessness of life...
bouke 6y ago
Except it doesn't. Maybe it works in English speaking countries watching only English titles. But in the other 90% of the bi-lingual world it doesn't. Set it to non-English (e.g. Dutch) and you cannot dictate English titles, or the other way around. Very annoying and frustrating.

Well, thanks for the suggestion, I didn't know it was an option. But what if I need to input a language that's not supported or I just don't want to yell at my TV to search a video?

quickthrowman 6y ago
If you have an iPhone, you should get a prompt to enter text on your phone when you’re in an Apple TV search field.
piva00 6y ago
Then my iPhone pops up a "Keyboard Input" notification with a text input that I can type from the phone without unlocking it. Of course, if you don't have your phone nearby it might suck but let's be realistic, how often you don't have your phone close by when watching TV? P.S.: Yes, I know, if you are an Android user there is no way out and Apple sucks for that, not defending them at all.
- Swenrekcah 6y ago
  This is a company supposedly famous for great user interfaces and usability. Why not try to live up to it? There are actually many times I don't have my phone with me while watching TV. I carry it with me everywhere all day, but I try to keep it on the table most of the time when at home.
  - auggierose 6y ago
    Apple TV has bluetooth, so if this is really an issue for you, why not get a dedicated TV keyboard?
    - Swenrekcah 6y ago
      Why can't they just fix their user interface? Nobody in the world I have talked to thinks this is the best choice of interfaces. I don't need a dedicated TV keyboard. As I said, I work around it by using the TV apps, but it's annoying, and the most annoying part is that it's probably annoying on purpose to get people more on their phone.
      - auggierose 6y ago
        I don't think it is on purpose to get people on their phone. Most people just don't use the keyboard much, I would guess. I never do, except for signing up for new apps. So I would agree with their design decision: make an elegant remote, use voice dictation for search and the like, if you need a keyboard, use your iPhone, and if you are not happy with that, get a dedicated keyboard. If you are not happy with THAT, well ...
        Swenrekcah 6y ago
        I am spending way more energy on this thread than is healthy :D But I can understand where you're coming from, I am just very frustrated that this user-interface-design-genius trillion dollar company can not change the input mechanism of one of their most used product from the: a b c d e [f] g h i j k etc... Backspace model with only <-> movement and no way to make an input correction other than backspace, to something like: a b c d Backspace e f [g] h forward i j k l backward m n o p Which is the way almost all other TV-centered apps I use function and works much better.
        auggierose 6y ago
        Yeah, I get your point now.
      - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
        I doubt it's annoying on purpose to get more people on the phone. I could be wrong about that, but that's not usually the way Apple's particular kind of hubris tends to manifest. There's almost certainly people at the company -- and it only takes one or two in the right places -- who like the current UI for text selection, and would probably explain why they think so. Now, they may literally be the same people who think the Apple TV remote is good in the first place, so I want to make it clear I'm not saying they're right. :) And, Apple should be better at UI design than this. They were once, and not that long ago, but I think the UI team they've had for the last, oh, let's say seven or eight years -- going back semi-arbitrarily to iOS 7, but steadily infecting all other platforms -- have prioritized aesthetics over usability.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago

Try entering something like 'Les Misérables' or "into to Kubernetes"

bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
Although inconvenient, it does let you dictate individual letters. Which is almost as fast as tap-typing on a phone.
wil421 6y ago
Does the first one work when a French person pronounces it?
cyberdrunk 6y ago
> "into to Kubernetes" That could be a movie about absurdity and meaninglessness of life...

bouke 6y ago

Except it doesn't. Maybe it works in English speaking countries watching only English titles. But in the other 90% of the bi-lingual world it doesn't. Set it to non-English (e.g. Dutch) and you cannot dictate English titles, or the other way around. Very annoying and frustrating.