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"most of the north-east is converted [to christianity]" is surprising, but actually that's true, for several Indian states that are in the enclave eastern of Ba

"most of the north-east is converted [to christianity]" is surprising, but actually that's true, for several Indian states that are in the enclave eastern of Bangladesh (Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya). Not "most" eastern states, though, only these ones. I am certainly not in favor of acculturation, and I have no sympathy for religions such as christianity who advocate that nature exists just to be used by humans, however I am not sure that the current status is really evolving. These eastern states seem to have been converted long ago.

nilsocket 6y ago
Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya are christianized long back. But Many media doesn't cover it, but Evangelism very high, in north-eastern states, almost 70% of the population became Christians. I'm all in, if people with their knowledge want to take Christianity. But de-generation of native faiths, Money, ... and other facilities for conversion are being provided. https://swarajyamag.com/culture/how-northeast-india-was-christianised-in-the-last-100-years https://swarajyamag.com/culture/how-northeast-india-was-chri...
- srean 6y ago
  Well I grew up in the Northeast ('80s). One thing I can assert that these missionaries treated the population a lot more respect than the (for the lack of a better word) folks from mainland India. The common attitude towards Northeast people by my fellow countrymen was that of utter contempt to the point of treating them as inferior beings. Sure the missionaries had an agenda. But given my options as an hypothetical person of northeastern ethnicity, given the education that I would get from the missionary organizations (they run many primary schools and high schools and vocational training schools) I would have made a wise choice and bettered my life.
  - nilsocket 6y ago
    I completely agree with you, no denial. But in-order to understand the nuances, one needs to see this in context of history. unfortunately, its too big to explain. Support for native traditions is very bad, no denial. Mainland Indians leave out north-east, no denial. But, this is same in case of every region, every community is on their own protecting themselves. And what do they get in return for protecting their culture, obviously nothing. Short video for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmGQ_jFP6ao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmGQ_jFP6ao Please understand, morale of this country is being broken from nearly 1200 years. It's only now we got freedom, it will take time to settle things, maybe 40 to 50 years more. We are a democratic country, it takes time. Edit: grammatical mistakes
    - srean 6y ago
      First of all I don't need to be mansplained about what is happening in the Northeast with videos short or not. Neither do I need to be schooled in the nuances, thank you. I am just sick and tired of the narrative that comes from the right wing "look missionaries did these horrible things". My rebuttal to that is (i) where were you and (ii) you (not you personally, the rightwing ideology) continue to do worse even today. So the right-wing does not really have a leg to stand on in this particular case.
      - nilsocket 6y ago
        If you have some courtesy to watch the video, it neither talks about conversions nor about north-east, nor about Christians. It talks about how bad Hindus are in supporting each other, when it comes to religion. What is so called right-wing ideology doing?
        srean 6y ago
        I show courtesy to those who have earned it. One earns some just being human, but then one can lose lots by one's behavior and agenda.
  - naruvimama 6y ago
    Not everyone feels that way, at the end of the day Christians in India may feel special because they are "minority". I have heard this from an India Christian family settled in Europe, their "christian identity" is not significant and they face all the 'othering' in their churches. They were considering moving back to their Hindu roots as it gave them some identity. As for the Christian benevolence, they lost thousands of ships before they found their way to a wealthy India. And when they left India was so impoverished that Indians were shipped off to remote plantations to "compensate" the white plantation owners after the slavery abolition. The church encroached upon and accumulated so much land and wealth during the colonial era that they have not returned back to the communities or government and in many cases temple lands are under the control of the church.
- henearkr 6y ago
  Do you think that could be an effect of the relative separation from mainland India and of the pressure of Islam from the South?

nilsocket 6y ago

Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya are christianized long back. But Many media doesn't cover it, but Evangelism very high, in north-eastern states, almost 70% of the population became Christians. I'm all in, if people with their knowledge want to take Christianity. But de-generation of native faiths, Money, ... and other facilities for conversion are being provided. https://swarajyamag.com/culture/how-northeast-india-was-christianised-in-the-last-100-years https://swarajyamag.com/culture/how-northeast-india-was-chri...

srean 6y ago
Well I grew up in the Northeast ('80s). One thing I can assert that these missionaries treated the population a lot more respect than the (for the lack of a better word) folks from mainland India. The common attitude towards Northeast people by my fellow countrymen was that of utter contempt to the point of treating them as inferior beings. Sure the missionaries had an agenda. But given my options as an hypothetical person of northeastern ethnicity, given the education that I would get from the missionary organizations (they run many primary schools and high schools and vocational training schools) I would have made a wise choice and bettered my life.
- nilsocket 6y ago
  I completely agree with you, no denial. But in-order to understand the nuances, one needs to see this in context of history. unfortunately, its too big to explain. Support for native traditions is very bad, no denial. Mainland Indians leave out north-east, no denial. But, this is same in case of every region, every community is on their own protecting themselves. And what do they get in return for protecting their culture, obviously nothing. Short video for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmGQ_jFP6ao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmGQ_jFP6ao Please understand, morale of this country is being broken from nearly 1200 years. It's only now we got freedom, it will take time to settle things, maybe 40 to 50 years more. We are a democratic country, it takes time. Edit: grammatical mistakes
  - srean 6y ago
    First of all I don't need to be mansplained about what is happening in the Northeast with videos short or not. Neither do I need to be schooled in the nuances, thank you. I am just sick and tired of the narrative that comes from the right wing "look missionaries did these horrible things". My rebuttal to that is (i) where were you and (ii) you (not you personally, the rightwing ideology) continue to do worse even today. So the right-wing does not really have a leg to stand on in this particular case.
    - nilsocket 6y ago
      If you have some courtesy to watch the video, it neither talks about conversions nor about north-east, nor about Christians. It talks about how bad Hindus are in supporting each other, when it comes to religion. What is so called right-wing ideology doing?
      - srean 6y ago
        I show courtesy to those who have earned it. One earns some just being human, but then one can lose lots by one's behavior and agenda.
- naruvimama 6y ago
  Not everyone feels that way, at the end of the day Christians in India may feel special because they are "minority". I have heard this from an India Christian family settled in Europe, their "christian identity" is not significant and they face all the 'othering' in their churches. They were considering moving back to their Hindu roots as it gave them some identity. As for the Christian benevolence, they lost thousands of ships before they found their way to a wealthy India. And when they left India was so impoverished that Indians were shipped off to remote plantations to "compensate" the white plantation owners after the slavery abolition. The church encroached upon and accumulated so much land and wealth during the colonial era that they have not returned back to the communities or government and in many cases temple lands are under the control of the church.
henearkr 6y ago
Do you think that could be an effect of the relative separation from mainland India and of the pressure of Islam from the South?