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There is plenty of unknown in Go.
by dood 18y ago
There is plenty of unknown in Go.
- mattmaroon 18y agoI must be playing it wrong. I've only played a couple times, but I thought it was a game of complete information. Perhaps I was taught incorrect rules.
- dood 18y agoI mean unknown in the sense of unpredictability, chaos, combinatorial complexity.
- skmurphy 18y agoEvent thought it's a game of complete information I find it hard to foresee the moves of better players that kill my stones and capture more territory. And I can't console myself that he got the right card or had a good die roll. There is clearly a place for games of chance but the level of complexity in the go game tree makes it very interesting.
- mattmaroon 18y agoWell, not knowing your opponents' moves is common to every game. Otherwise its not a game.
- skmurphy 18y agoSure, but when I was five I found tic tac toe a challenge because I couldn't visualize the game tree. It's also a game of "perfect information."
- mattmaroon 18y agoDoesn't that agree with what I was saying? Games of perfect information are less skill intensive than some games that don't have it, because it's just a matter of visualizing the game tree, even though with chess or go the tree is too big.
- dood 18y agoIf you are a fan of games, I heartily encourage you to give Go a good chance. It is both beautiful and profound, yet of broad practical benefit. Poker, though very different, is the only other game I know which is comparably elegant, applicable and revelatory.
- mattmaroon 18y agoI'm sure I'll spend some time on it some day.
- jon_dahl 18y agoI'd look at it more like chaos. Theoretically, there is absolutely nothing random in the shuffling of a deck of cards or the roll of dice, bracketing the human elements. It's just really really complex, so we call this chaos/random.