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Whatever has the best panel for the best price, then strap an apple TV (or your choice of NUC) onto it and completely ignore whatever on-board smarts exist.

covercash 6y ago
The biggest drawback to this is the lack of support for 4K in the YouTube app on Apple TV.
- antsar 6y ago
  And that the YouTube app forces its ads and shitty recommendations down your throat. A NUC running Kodi sounds nicer. (Yeah, yeah, pi-hole. It’s a bandaid, IMHO) Also, Apple‘s streaming services being ever more annoyingly shoved in your face on menu screens.
  - kmlx 6y ago
    it doesn't have any ads if you buy Youtube Premium
    - Nextgrid 6y ago
      This requires accepting their ToS & "privacy" policy and providing validated billing data to Google, an advertising company already stalking everything you do on the web. Some people might not be comfortable with this, or not even trust them to begin with. I personally don't mind paying but there's no way in hell I am providing any personal information to Google.
  - vetinari 6y ago
    Pihole cannot block youtube ads. You need uBlock, that can block parts of DOM tree inside a page, knowing hosts is not enough.
  - abawany 6y ago
    Pine and others have an opportunity to pair with Kodi, like Pine did with UBPorts and etc. to market a Kodi device.
  - covercash 6y ago
    I think a simple Youtube-dl + web based front end that can run on a Raspberry Pi would be a great way to help lots of people bypass YouTube.com/apps, make it as simple as PiHole for users to get going. Have it organize files in a way that would allow clients like Plex to easily access that content. Easy 4k + ad-free content on any device.
- galad87 6y ago
  YouTube app is supposed to support 4k on tvOS 14. I don't know if Google already updated the app or not.
m_eiman 6y ago
This is the only reasonable solution. I've got an OLED LG "TV", connected to an Apple TV and a receiver for proper audio (using HDMI ARC). To turn everything on, I press a button on the Apple TV remote and everything is up and running within five seconds or so (from standby/sleep mode). Powering off the Apple TV also turns off the display and the receiver via HDMI CEC. Edit: http://www.eiman.tv/misc/power-on.mov http://www.eiman.tv/misc/power-on.mov
- Sjonny 6y ago
  I found that my receiver was still using 50W while in "CEC-ready standby", while it's only 2W in normal standby, so I never use it. I'll just press a few more buttons.
  - loufe 6y ago
    That's incredible. 50W is wholy unnacceptable.
    - anticensor 6y ago
      Indeed unacceptable. That figure is quite comparable to S1 sleeping state of a desktop. Whereas a computer consumes ~10W in S3 state and can even wake up out of that when triggered by LAN.
mFixman 6y ago
Any reason why an Apple TV and not a Roku or a Chromecast?
- chadlavi 6y ago
  Roku and Chromecast do the same BS as smart TVs
  - mFixman 6y ago
    ...do they? I have a Chromecast and have never seen an ad.
    - chadlavi 6y ago
      They don't display ads on chromecast, they collect info for future ads there.

covercash 6y ago

The biggest drawback to this is the lack of support for 4K in the YouTube app on Apple TV.

antsar 6y ago
And that the YouTube app forces its ads and shitty recommendations down your throat. A NUC running Kodi sounds nicer. (Yeah, yeah, pi-hole. It’s a bandaid, IMHO) Also, Apple‘s streaming services being ever more annoyingly shoved in your face on menu screens.
- kmlx 6y ago
  it doesn't have any ads if you buy Youtube Premium
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    This requires accepting their ToS & "privacy" policy and providing validated billing data to Google, an advertising company already stalking everything you do on the web. Some people might not be comfortable with this, or not even trust them to begin with. I personally don't mind paying but there's no way in hell I am providing any personal information to Google.
- vetinari 6y ago
  Pihole cannot block youtube ads. You need uBlock, that can block parts of DOM tree inside a page, knowing hosts is not enough.
- abawany 6y ago
  Pine and others have an opportunity to pair with Kodi, like Pine did with UBPorts and etc. to market a Kodi device.
- covercash 6y ago
  I think a simple Youtube-dl + web based front end that can run on a Raspberry Pi would be a great way to help lots of people bypass YouTube.com/apps, make it as simple as PiHole for users to get going. Have it organize files in a way that would allow clients like Plex to easily access that content. Easy 4k + ad-free content on any device.
galad87 6y ago
YouTube app is supposed to support 4k on tvOS 14. I don't know if Google already updated the app or not.

m_eiman 6y ago

This is the only reasonable solution. I've got an OLED LG "TV", connected to an Apple TV and a receiver for proper audio (using HDMI ARC). To turn everything on, I press a button on the Apple TV remote and everything is up and running within five seconds or so (from standby/sleep mode). Powering off the Apple TV also turns off the display and the receiver via HDMI CEC. Edit: http://www.eiman.tv/misc/power-on.mov http://www.eiman.tv/misc/power-on.mov

Sjonny 6y ago
I found that my receiver was still using 50W while in "CEC-ready standby", while it's only 2W in normal standby, so I never use it. I'll just press a few more buttons.
- loufe 6y ago
  That's incredible. 50W is wholy unnacceptable.
  - anticensor 6y ago
    Indeed unacceptable. That figure is quite comparable to S1 sleeping state of a desktop. Whereas a computer consumes ~10W in S3 state and can even wake up out of that when triggered by LAN.

mFixman 6y ago

Any reason why an Apple TV and not a Roku or a Chromecast?

chadlavi 6y ago
Roku and Chromecast do the same BS as smart TVs
- mFixman 6y ago
  ...do they? I have a Chromecast and have never seen an ad.
  - chadlavi 6y ago
    They don't display ads on chromecast, they collect info for future ads there.