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You can't drive a Tesla in "self-driving" mode in non-highway traffic. Solving Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC) on highway traff

by typon 6y ago

You can't drive a Tesla in "self-driving" mode in non-highway traffic. Solving Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC) on highway traffic are much easier tasks than what Waymo and Cruise are solving. You can buy a device from comma.ai that gives you 90% of Tesla's functionality for a few hundred dollars.

ericmay 6y ago
I can’t drive a Waymo or Cruise car at all. So they may as well not exist. But Tesla is supposed to be releasing self-driving on city streets soon. And let’s make sure we are clear here, you don’t need to be on a highway to use Autopilot. Do you own a Tesla? We previously had a car with ACC/ALC and I don’t find it to be even close to the same thing, but that’s me. Comma.Ai’s device is great. It’s better than anything anybody else (Waymo/Cruise included) has put out there.
- piva00 6y ago
  > But Tesla is supposed to be releasing self-driving on city streets soon. Soon as it was in 2016 [1], 2018 [2] in Feb 2019 [3], Mar 2020 [4], or July 2020 [5]? They have been hyping this up for years, why should I still believe those claims that it will soon be here™? Not only that but they have already advertised and sold "full self-driving" for people that can't use it yet, no beta, no alpha, just doesn't exist and is a paid feature. How far is this from fraud? [1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/19/watch-a-fully-self-driving-tesla-navigate-intersections-and-city-streets/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/19/watch-a-fully-self-driving... [2] https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/03/hiding-between-two-announcements-tesla-full-self-driving-just-a-couple-of-steps-away/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/03/hiding-between-two-anno... [3] https://electrek.co/2019/02/28/automatic-driving-city-stop-signs/ https://electrek.co/2019/02/28/automatic-driving-city-stop-s... [4] https://electrek.co/2020/03/04/tesla-self-driving-features-march-city-street-autopilot/ https://electrek.co/2020/03/04/tesla-self-driving-features-m... [5] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53349313 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53349313
  - berryjerry 6y ago
    I think this is regulatory. I have seen multiple articles like the attached which have caused Tesla to basically handicap it's own autopilot. As another said I have no idea how a company with a car is not ahead of a company without one. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-s-model-x-autopilot-europe-regulations/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-s-model-x-aut...
kwhitefoot 6y ago
> You can't drive a Tesla in "self-driving" mode in non-highway traffic. Yes you can. At least my ap1.5 s70d does a fair job on quite a lot of roads and I expect that ap2 is better.

by typon 6y ago

ericmay 6y ago

I can’t drive a Waymo or Cruise car at all. So they may as well not exist. But Tesla is supposed to be releasing self-driving on city streets soon. And let’s make sure we are clear here, you don’t need to be on a highway to use Autopilot. Do you own a Tesla? We previously had a car with ACC/ALC and I don’t find it to be even close to the same thing, but that’s me. Comma.Ai’s device is great. It’s better than anything anybody else (Waymo/Cruise included) has put out there.

piva00 6y ago
> But Tesla is supposed to be releasing self-driving on city streets soon. Soon as it was in 2016 [1], 2018 [2] in Feb 2019 [3], Mar 2020 [4], or July 2020 [5]? They have been hyping this up for years, why should I still believe those claims that it will soon be here™? Not only that but they have already advertised and sold "full self-driving" for people that can't use it yet, no beta, no alpha, just doesn't exist and is a paid feature. How far is this from fraud? [1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/19/watch-a-fully-self-driving-tesla-navigate-intersections-and-city-streets/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/19/watch-a-fully-self-driving... [2] https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/03/hiding-between-two-announcements-tesla-full-self-driving-just-a-couple-of-steps-away/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/03/hiding-between-two-anno... [3] https://electrek.co/2019/02/28/automatic-driving-city-stop-signs/ https://electrek.co/2019/02/28/automatic-driving-city-stop-s... [4] https://electrek.co/2020/03/04/tesla-self-driving-features-march-city-street-autopilot/ https://electrek.co/2020/03/04/tesla-self-driving-features-m... [5] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53349313 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53349313
- berryjerry 6y ago
  I think this is regulatory. I have seen multiple articles like the attached which have caused Tesla to basically handicap it's own autopilot. As another said I have no idea how a company with a car is not ahead of a company without one. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-s-model-x-autopilot-europe-regulations/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-s-model-x-aut...

kwhitefoot 6y ago

> You can't drive a Tesla in "self-driving" mode in non-highway traffic. Yes you can. At least my ap1.5 s70d does a fair job on quite a lot of roads and I expect that ap2 is better.