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> But because the entire idea that just visting your site entitles you (or anyone else) to income is incredible hubris and disrespectful of the intelligence of

> But because the entire idea that just visting your site entitles you (or anyone else) to income is incredible hubris and disrespectful of the intelligence of your users. I'm not sure your vitriol is called for here, it seems very easy to selectively enable and disable monetization [1]. I'm not OP, but if I were to monetize a search engine I'd have the <meta> tag on the results page but _not_ on the home page. Likewise if I were a content provider, I wouldn't monetize the index page. I imagine and hope that this would be standard practice, but perhaps I'm being overly optimistic. [1] https://webmonetization.org/docs/start-stop https://webmonetization.org/docs/start-stop

nobody9999 6y ago
>I'm not sure your vitriol is called for here, it seems very easy to selectively enable and disable monetization [1]. Easy for who? And for what purpose? Implementing an HTML tag that will attempt to charge you money is wrong on so many levels. If I walk into a store (click on a link), even though I know there's stuff to buy there, the store (website) doesn't have the right to charge me just for walking into the store (hitting the landing page) -- unless they clearly let me know that (perhaps a big sign on the door?) before I enter the store. And as for what you would or wouldn't do, that's great! You're a stand up guy[0]. Sadly, there are way too many people who would abuse this in a hot minute. Especially since many folks wouldn't even find out about it until they get some sort of transaction notification (with a credit/debit card, that could be weeks). [0] N.B.: That's not snark or sarcasm. It's good to know that there are still other people who will do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Thank you.
- chris_f 6y ago
  > Implementing an HTML tag that will attempt to charge you money is wrong on so many levels. Just a quick clarification. The HTML tag doesn't charge you anything. It just indicates that the website participates in WM and provides a location on where the website can accept a payment. You still need to subscribe to a Web Monetization provider that actually makes the payment and calculates the amount. You have 100% control over whether you want to participate in Web Monetization or not.

nobody9999 6y ago

>I'm not sure your vitriol is called for here, it seems very easy to selectively enable and disable monetization [1]. Easy for who? And for what purpose? Implementing an HTML tag that will attempt to charge you money is wrong on so many levels. If I walk into a store (click on a link), even though I know there's stuff to buy there, the store (website) doesn't have the right to charge me just for walking into the store (hitting the landing page) -- unless they clearly let me know that (perhaps a big sign on the door?) before I enter the store. And as for what you would or wouldn't do, that's great! You're a stand up guy[0]. Sadly, there are way too many people who would abuse this in a hot minute. Especially since many folks wouldn't even find out about it until they get some sort of transaction notification (with a credit/debit card, that could be weeks). [0] N.B.: That's not snark or sarcasm. It's good to know that there are still other people who will do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Thank you.

chris_f 6y ago
> Implementing an HTML tag that will attempt to charge you money is wrong on so many levels. Just a quick clarification. The HTML tag doesn't charge you anything. It just indicates that the website participates in WM and provides a location on where the website can accept a payment. You still need to subscribe to a Web Monetization provider that actually makes the payment and calculates the amount. You have 100% control over whether you want to participate in Web Monetization or not.