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>You're aware Netflix also applies data insights to decide what to make? Of course I give something thumbs up or down depending on if I liked it - why would y

>You're aware Netflix also applies data insights to decide what to make? Of course I give something thumbs up or down depending on if I liked it - why would you assume I don't know what they do with that? But they've still made some barely watchable crap, too, in spite of themselves, so I do have to question if rating things even matters.

triceratops 6y ago
The thumbs up/down is just one signal among many. They know in aggregate what people watch, how much of a movie/episode they watched, the kinds of devices they watched on, how much binging/pausing they did, when and where they watched it... > they've still made some barely watchable crap, too To you. That crap was undoubtedly entertaining to someone. Not to mention a 100% hit rate is nearly impossible in the creative biz.
- leptons 6y ago
  https://old.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/cj4rrp/was_another_life_scifi_series_on_netflix_made_bad/ https://old.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/cj4rrp/was_another_l... Netflix's "Another Life" was so bad that people wonder if it was made bad on purpose. It was absolutely awful, and anyone that thinks it was good loses any credibility about what's good or bad sci-fi. And I've been developing webpages for many decades, and even worked quite a long time at a precursor to what Netflix is today - yes, an online movie streaming service. So please don't talk down to me like I don't know what any of this is about. You're seriously wasting your time explaining any of that to me.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    I didn't intend to "talk down" to you, sorry if it came off that way. I just didn't agree with your original statement that programmers' performance has little/nothing to do with why people use Netflix. I still think you're completely wrong about that. > I've been developing webpages for many decades It can't have been that many decades, the WWW has only existed for 3 decades.[1] Even I've written at least one webpage in every single one of those decades. :-P 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#History
    - leptons 6y ago
      "When I look for a streaming video service, I want to make sure their programmers are the best. The content isn't as important as the user interface or the algorithms that tell me what to watch." Do you realize how absurd that sounds? Content is King. If Netflix had crap content, it wouldn't matter how good their programmers are, because the content would still be crap. I can tell you from experience that if Netflix ever folded, their contracts with studios would be worth 100x more than whatever code they developed is worth. > I've been developing webpages for many decades >>It can't have been that many decades, The "WWW" was created in August 1991, and I was on it in 1992, so yeah, practically 3 decades. I was wishing for Javascript in a web browser years before it ever existed, back when I was using lynx to browse the web. And I was coding long before that. Yeah, I'm old. I've been around. I don't need you explaining anything to me.
      - triceratops 6y ago
        > Content is King. If Netflix had crap content, it wouldn't matter how good their programmers are I don't think I ever once said "content doesn't matter". If they only had dynamite content and a shitty user experience people would simply pirate the content and not pay for it. > Yeah, I'm old. I've been around. I don't need you explaining anything to me. I try every day to not become like that.
        leptons 6y ago
        >If they only had dynamite content and a shitty user experience people would simply pirate the content and not pay for it. Most people have no clue how to pirate anything. Out of 100 people in your life, including all your relatives, honestly, how many of them are willing and capable of pirating content? If you think it's over 25% you will have me ROFLOL. And all of those people will be just fine with a less flashy UI than Netflix has to watch content they want to watch. I mean, they've been using cable boxes for years and those absolutely SUCK for finding content - but they still watched, because there is content they want to watch, or not, so they don't watch. You're really making some very weak arguments.

triceratops 6y ago

The thumbs up/down is just one signal among many. They know in aggregate what people watch, how much of a movie/episode they watched, the kinds of devices they watched on, how much binging/pausing they did, when and where they watched it... > they've still made some barely watchable crap, too To you. That crap was undoubtedly entertaining to someone. Not to mention a 100% hit rate is nearly impossible in the creative biz.

leptons 6y ago
https://old.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/cj4rrp/was_another_life_scifi_series_on_netflix_made_bad/ https://old.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/cj4rrp/was_another_l... Netflix's "Another Life" was so bad that people wonder if it was made bad on purpose. It was absolutely awful, and anyone that thinks it was good loses any credibility about what's good or bad sci-fi. And I've been developing webpages for many decades, and even worked quite a long time at a precursor to what Netflix is today - yes, an online movie streaming service. So please don't talk down to me like I don't know what any of this is about. You're seriously wasting your time explaining any of that to me.
- triceratops 6y ago
  I didn't intend to "talk down" to you, sorry if it came off that way. I just didn't agree with your original statement that programmers' performance has little/nothing to do with why people use Netflix. I still think you're completely wrong about that. > I've been developing webpages for many decades It can't have been that many decades, the WWW has only existed for 3 decades.[1] Even I've written at least one webpage in every single one of those decades. :-P 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#History
  - leptons 6y ago
    "When I look for a streaming video service, I want to make sure their programmers are the best. The content isn't as important as the user interface or the algorithms that tell me what to watch." Do you realize how absurd that sounds? Content is King. If Netflix had crap content, it wouldn't matter how good their programmers are, because the content would still be crap. I can tell you from experience that if Netflix ever folded, their contracts with studios would be worth 100x more than whatever code they developed is worth. > I've been developing webpages for many decades >>It can't have been that many decades, The "WWW" was created in August 1991, and I was on it in 1992, so yeah, practically 3 decades. I was wishing for Javascript in a web browser years before it ever existed, back when I was using lynx to browse the web. And I was coding long before that. Yeah, I'm old. I've been around. I don't need you explaining anything to me.
    - triceratops 6y ago
      > Content is King. If Netflix had crap content, it wouldn't matter how good their programmers are I don't think I ever once said "content doesn't matter". If they only had dynamite content and a shitty user experience people would simply pirate the content and not pay for it. > Yeah, I'm old. I've been around. I don't need you explaining anything to me. I try every day to not become like that.
      - leptons 6y ago
        >If they only had dynamite content and a shitty user experience people would simply pirate the content and not pay for it. Most people have no clue how to pirate anything. Out of 100 people in your life, including all your relatives, honestly, how many of them are willing and capable of pirating content? If you think it's over 25% you will have me ROFLOL. And all of those people will be just fine with a less flashy UI than Netflix has to watch content they want to watch. I mean, they've been using cable boxes for years and those absolutely SUCK for finding content - but they still watched, because there is content they want to watch, or not, so they don't watch. You're really making some very weak arguments.