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Evidence like this: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-masks/oregon-troopers-refuse-face-masks-coffee-shop/283-70e10fa3-aa88-41ba-b4be-35d

Evidence like this: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-masks/oregon-troopers-refuse-face-masks-coffee-shop/283-70e10fa3-aa88-41ba-b4be-35dc20280e09 https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-mas...

andybak 6y ago
I'm not sure comparisons between Oregon Troopers and UK police are especially useful. (Not saying uk police are perfect but something like the this in the linked article would be less likely here)
- throw_away 6y ago
  Because the premise I was responding to was "It's reasonable to assume that Police has procedures that are followed, or at least that are followed infinitely better than the general public." I didn't take that as meaning a specific police force, but rather, police in general. I was specifically responding to mytaylorrsrich's comment that people are reacting negatively to the police just because they are police, whereas my point was that they were believing that the police always held themselves to a higher standard just because they were police. I'm not convinced that is the case, and this link is a point of evidence to that effect.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    The police do have procedures and do behave much better than the general public. As also repeated the police has extra security constraints, which must be balanced with any benefits the tracking app bring. Clearly they think that allowing a third party app which goal is real-time tracking, on police phones has more downsides than upsides. I don't know anything about American police and I don't care. This is not the topic of the discussion, which is about an UK tracking app and UK police forces. I do think that shooting this advice against installing the app (on police phones) and my comments down is largely being obtuse because it's the police or because they don't want to acknowledge the specificities of police work.

andybak 6y ago

I'm not sure comparisons between Oregon Troopers and UK police are especially useful. (Not saying uk police are perfect but something like the this in the linked article would be less likely here)

throw_away 6y ago
Because the premise I was responding to was "It's reasonable to assume that Police has procedures that are followed, or at least that are followed infinitely better than the general public." I didn't take that as meaning a specific police force, but rather, police in general. I was specifically responding to mytaylorrsrich's comment that people are reacting negatively to the police just because they are police, whereas my point was that they were believing that the police always held themselves to a higher standard just because they were police. I'm not convinced that is the case, and this link is a point of evidence to that effect.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  The police do have procedures and do behave much better than the general public. As also repeated the police has extra security constraints, which must be balanced with any benefits the tracking app bring. Clearly they think that allowing a third party app which goal is real-time tracking, on police phones has more downsides than upsides. I don't know anything about American police and I don't care. This is not the topic of the discussion, which is about an UK tracking app and UK police forces. I do think that shooting this advice against installing the app (on police phones) and my comments down is largely being obtuse because it's the police or because they don't want to acknowledge the specificities of police work.