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> Employer NI is 13.8%, but rarely counted as a tax on the worker (crazilly) It is a cost of the employment. As I wrote above, it goes to the treasury and prop
by aries1980 6y ago
> Employer NI is 13.8%, but rarely counted as a tax on the worker (crazilly)
It is a cost of the employment. As I wrote above, it goes to the treasury and proportionate to the salary. It doesn't matter how we label it. Doesn't matter neither to the company's, nor the individual's taxation.
> Of course plenty of people earning big bucks don't do it via PAYE, just take their money as far lower capital gains
No, the people who earn big bucks do it in a non tax-resident way. They don't declare tax in the UK or any high-taxpaying region.
> That would only affect the top 2.5% of income tax payers
No, 1.6M people, the top 5%: https://www.ifs.org.uk/election/2019/article/labour-s-proposed-income-tax-rises-for-high-income-individuals https://www.ifs.org.uk/election/2019/article/labour-s-propos...
"The top 5% of income tax payers contribute half of all income tax revenues today." With the current level of digitalisation, there is only so much weight you can put on the most performant segment of the workforce before they pack and leave.
> Their tax rate would change from 45% to 46%, hardly an earth shattering change.
No, the former 45% would be higher than 50%, because it would have started from £125K, and they would introduce a 45% above £80K.
- iso1631 6y agoI provided the percentile points of income tax payers (and many people don't pay income tax at all) from the government. IFS don't provide their source. 80k is between 97 and 98. I also provided the breakdown of how much income tax, employer NI and employee NI is paid. My high income friends tend to get their income from dividends and avoid NI completely. Only working schmucks pay NI. You can choose to ignore the data if you want.