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If you're a young technical entrepreneur looking for a 10-100M startup opportunity and with a very interesting technical challenge behind it: Create a collabora

If you're a young technical entrepreneur looking for a 10-100M startup opportunity and with a very interesting technical challenge behind it: Create a collaborative replacement of Jupyter Notebooks. There's already some effort done in JupyterLab fork if you're interested [0], but with no significant advancements. So yes, I agree that CDRTs are indeed a promising endeavor. [0] https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/5382 https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/5382

darkhorse13 6y ago
Is it really such a good idea to entice young people like this? Shouldn't someone at least be interested and have domain knowledge in CRDTs and real-time collaboration before diving into building a startup like this?
- santiagobasulto 6y ago
  Well, yes, of course. But my comment assumes the person might be interested in the subject.
- TheDong 6y ago
  There's no need to gatekeep building something on already having knowledge. If someone has time and energy and desire, not knowing anything about document editing or CRDTs is not a blocker. Those things can be learned in a week to a month by someone who dedicates time to it. Very few parts of software are inaccessible to someone with basic CS knowledge. It's a great idea for people to try something, regardless of their background, and if they fail but learn something, that's still a fine outcome.
- colesantiago 6y ago
  Worked for Figma, right? I'm sure they fall into the collaborative software space, utilise CRDTs and the founders are less than 40 years of age. This seems like gatekeeping no?
fancy_pantser 6y ago
Domino Data Lab has been around for a while and closed another $43M in funding earlier this year. They have a boatload of tools around collaborative notebooks. They go even further and have data science manager-level dashboards to track the notebooks, their resources, and who is working on what. There are others, but I'm calling this company out specifically because they've shown great traction and I've spent a little time with the cofounders when they were still at a shared incubator space.
maclockard 6y ago
I actually just wrote about doing this with our code notebook product just the other day https://hex.tech/blog/a-pragmatic-approach-to-live-collaboration https://hex.tech/blog/a-pragmatic-approach-to-live-collabora...
- bearly 6y ago
  Interesting decision process. I kept wondering if other people had implemented the Figma approach and it looks like you did a nice job with it. I also appreciate you putting those cool explainers up front
yunyu 6y ago
https://deepnote.com/ https://deepnote.com/ is doing exactly this!
csours 6y ago
How is the system you imagine different from repl.it?
williamstein 6y ago
CoCalc is a collaborative replacement of Jupyter notebooks. It's a top-to-bottom re-implementation of the entire Jupyter stack designed specifically for realtime collaboration. You can use it via our hosted offering (https://cocalc.com https://cocalc.com), or install it on prem via https://github.com/sagemathinc/cocalc-docker https://github.com/sagemathinc/cocalc-docker. We released the our collaborative Jupyter notebook in 2014 as a plugin to Jupyter classic. We then iterated on what we learned over the years, completely rewriting everything multiple times, including the entire realtime collaboration stack. Cocalc's Jupyter support is pretty mature and battle tested at this point, and also includes a TimeTravel slider that lets you view all past versions of a Jupyter notebook and integrated chat. I was a college professor (at Univ of Washington), I started a company around this in 2015, so CoCalc has soo far been mainly aimed at serving the needs of academics teaching courses. It's been increasingly popular lately, e.g., in the last month over a half million distinct Jupyter notebooks were edited on https://cocalc.com https://cocalc.com. Of course, many of these notebooks are homework problems. Anyway, our company is doing very well, and we hope it will eventually be a "10M startup opportunity". :-)
selimthegrim 6y ago
Blockpad (https://blockpad.net https://blockpad.net) isn’t such a bad attempt, but mainly focused towards civil engineers.
bruckie 6y ago
What does "young" have to do with it?

darkhorse13 6y ago

Is it really such a good idea to entice young people like this? Shouldn't someone at least be interested and have domain knowledge in CRDTs and real-time collaboration before diving into building a startup like this?

santiagobasulto 6y ago
Well, yes, of course. But my comment assumes the person might be interested in the subject.
TheDong 6y ago
There's no need to gatekeep building something on already having knowledge. If someone has time and energy and desire, not knowing anything about document editing or CRDTs is not a blocker. Those things can be learned in a week to a month by someone who dedicates time to it. Very few parts of software are inaccessible to someone with basic CS knowledge. It's a great idea for people to try something, regardless of their background, and if they fail but learn something, that's still a fine outcome.
colesantiago 6y ago
Worked for Figma, right? I'm sure they fall into the collaborative software space, utilise CRDTs and the founders are less than 40 years of age. This seems like gatekeeping no?

fancy_pantser 6y ago

Domino Data Lab has been around for a while and closed another $43M in funding earlier this year. They have a boatload of tools around collaborative notebooks. They go even further and have data science manager-level dashboards to track the notebooks, their resources, and who is working on what. There are others, but I'm calling this company out specifically because they've shown great traction and I've spent a little time with the cofounders when they were still at a shared incubator space.

maclockard 6y ago

I actually just wrote about doing this with our code notebook product just the other day https://hex.tech/blog/a-pragmatic-approach-to-live-collaboration https://hex.tech/blog/a-pragmatic-approach-to-live-collabora...

bearly 6y ago
Interesting decision process. I kept wondering if other people had implemented the Figma approach and it looks like you did a nice job with it. I also appreciate you putting those cool explainers up front

yunyu 6y ago

https://deepnote.com/ https://deepnote.com/ is doing exactly this!

csours 6y ago

How is the system you imagine different from repl.it?

williamstein 6y ago

CoCalc is a collaborative replacement of Jupyter notebooks. It's a top-to-bottom re-implementation of the entire Jupyter stack designed specifically for realtime collaboration. You can use it via our hosted offering (https://cocalc.com https://cocalc.com), or install it on prem via https://github.com/sagemathinc/cocalc-docker https://github.com/sagemathinc/cocalc-docker. We released the our collaborative Jupyter notebook in 2014 as a plugin to Jupyter classic. We then iterated on what we learned over the years, completely rewriting everything multiple times, including the entire realtime collaboration stack. Cocalc's Jupyter support is pretty mature and battle tested at this point, and also includes a TimeTravel slider that lets you view all past versions of a Jupyter notebook and integrated chat. I was a college professor (at Univ of Washington), I started a company around this in 2015, so CoCalc has soo far been mainly aimed at serving the needs of academics teaching courses. It's been increasingly popular lately, e.g., in the last month over a half million distinct Jupyter notebooks were edited on https://cocalc.com https://cocalc.com. Of course, many of these notebooks are homework problems. Anyway, our company is doing very well, and we hope it will eventually be a "10M startup opportunity". :-)

selimthegrim 6y ago

Blockpad (https://blockpad.net https://blockpad.net) isn’t such a bad attempt, but mainly focused towards civil engineers.

bruckie 6y ago

What does "young" have to do with it?