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It's not nearly as back and white as you would appear to like it to be. I do not see any laws being broken or US Citizen rights being trodden on with this ban.

It's not nearly as back and white as you would appear to like it to be. I do not see any laws being broken or US Citizen rights being trodden on with this ban. They're not even setting a new precedent with this ban. It is completely within the executive branches power to ban a foreign corporation for national security reason, reasons that may not be completely clear to the public. Though I think the reason is very clear, at least their official one. If you are a China based company the CCP by law has access to your data and they have abused access to sensitive and private data time and time again. Just because nothing has happened yet doesn't mean we shouldn't be proactive against China. And I wish Congress would do something about it. The Chinese government deserves so much more then a TikTok ban and Congress could give the ban a more stable foundation then a executive order from a controversial administration.

ace_of_spades 6y ago
As a European I can‘t resist but to say that I wish that we would start banning all of the American internet cooperations that are required by law to share their data with the US government which has time and time again shown that they are willing to abuse access. Remember the time they wanted to wiretap Angela Merkel? Good times! It‘s really astonishing to what extent people are willing to be hypocrites not only but especially in the US... American exceptionalism, what a f*cking joke... Might explain how the Republican party and American establishment could create such a mess of the country. It would be funny if it wasn‘t so damn sad and dangerous for all the other countries and people. /rant
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bduerst 6y ago
>They're not even setting a new precedent with this ban. They are though. The powers of executive order used for the ban are specifically limited to prevent any banning or stopping the information flow of any forms of media and communication. i.e. The U.S. President can't use executive orders to circumvent the first amendment.
- 7v3x3n3sem9vv 6y ago
  I'm absolutely not an expert, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect the CCP/Tiktok has no constitutional rights in the US and the President can take any action against a government controlled foreign business if there's even a hint of a national security risk. Not saying it's right it wrong, only that it's within their power.
  - bduerst 6y ago
    U.S. citizens have constitutional rights, and that includes using information services for expression of speech that are or are not based in the U.S.

ace_of_spades 6y ago

As a European I can‘t resist but to say that I wish that we would start banning all of the American internet cooperations that are required by law to share their data with the US government which has time and time again shown that they are willing to abuse access. Remember the time they wanted to wiretap Angela Merkel? Good times! It‘s really astonishing to what extent people are willing to be hypocrites not only but especially in the US... American exceptionalism, what a f*cking joke... Might explain how the Republican party and American establishment could create such a mess of the country. It would be funny if it wasn‘t so damn sad and dangerous for all the other countries and people. /rant

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bduerst 6y ago

>They're not even setting a new precedent with this ban. They are though. The powers of executive order used for the ban are specifically limited to prevent any banning or stopping the information flow of any forms of media and communication. i.e. The U.S. President can't use executive orders to circumvent the first amendment.

7v3x3n3sem9vv 6y ago
I'm absolutely not an expert, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect the CCP/Tiktok has no constitutional rights in the US and the President can take any action against a government controlled foreign business if there's even a hint of a national security risk. Not saying it's right it wrong, only that it's within their power.
- bduerst 6y ago
  U.S. citizens have constitutional rights, and that includes using information services for expression of speech that are or are not based in the U.S.