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> And how does splitting the marketplace up alleviate that problem? That does just the opposite. Now Amazon corporate can shield itself even more. In this case

by ardy42 6y ago

> And how does splitting the marketplace up alleviate that problem? That does just the opposite. Now Amazon corporate can shield itself even more. In this case, my hope would be that Amazon would shut down the 3rd party marketplace in favor of it's own retail business. Alternatively, it could explicitly wall them off from each other so there's a much clearer distinction and the marketplace could be more easily avoided unless explicitly desired.

scarface74 6y ago
Do you really think that’s the outcome any of the people who participate on the marketplace want - not to be integrated with Amazon.com?
- ardy42 6y ago
  > Do you really think that’s the outcome any of the people who participate on the marketplace want - not to be integrated with Amazon.com? I'm sure the integration is desired by many sellers [1], but my sympathies lie with shoppers, and Amazon Marketplace has made my buying experience worse. [1] To give a slanted example: if I'm a seller trying to unload counterfeit or substandard goods, I want a trusted brand like Amazon's to hide behind. Even better if burred distinctions let me piggyback on any goodwill Amazon's first-party sales have created in shoppers.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    So you are not concerned with protecting the “little guy”? Doesn’t that give Amazon more power in the marketplace?
    - ardy42 6y ago
      > So you are not concerned with protecting the “little guy”? Doesn’t that give Amazon more power in the marketplace? What do you mean? Sellers can always sell on other marketplaces, like eBay, where it's clearer to the buyers what they're getting into. If Amazon has too much power in the (retail) marketplace, the solution is to break it up, not give other sellers precarious access to its storefront via "Amazon Marketplace."
      - scarface74 6y ago
        So if sellers have other choices, that kind of argues against that they need to be broken up because they are a monopoly...
srtjstjsj 6y ago
Your solution to anti-competitive behavior is to complete eliminate the competition?
- ardy42 6y ago
  > Your solution to anti-competitive behavior is to complete eliminate the competition? You'll note that I wasn't focusing on anti-competitive behavior at all. I personally don't like sites that commingle 1st party retail with a 3rd party marketplace, because I think they're a bad user experience.

by ardy42 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago

Do you really think that’s the outcome any of the people who participate on the marketplace want - not to be integrated with Amazon.com?

ardy42 6y ago
> Do you really think that’s the outcome any of the people who participate on the marketplace want - not to be integrated with Amazon.com? I'm sure the integration is desired by many sellers [1], but my sympathies lie with shoppers, and Amazon Marketplace has made my buying experience worse. [1] To give a slanted example: if I'm a seller trying to unload counterfeit or substandard goods, I want a trusted brand like Amazon's to hide behind. Even better if burred distinctions let me piggyback on any goodwill Amazon's first-party sales have created in shoppers.
- scarface74 6y ago
  So you are not concerned with protecting the “little guy”? Doesn’t that give Amazon more power in the marketplace?
  - ardy42 6y ago
    > So you are not concerned with protecting the “little guy”? Doesn’t that give Amazon more power in the marketplace? What do you mean? Sellers can always sell on other marketplaces, like eBay, where it's clearer to the buyers what they're getting into. If Amazon has too much power in the (retail) marketplace, the solution is to break it up, not give other sellers precarious access to its storefront via "Amazon Marketplace."
    - scarface74 6y ago
      So if sellers have other choices, that kind of argues against that they need to be broken up because they are a monopoly...

srtjstjsj 6y ago

Your solution to anti-competitive behavior is to complete eliminate the competition?

ardy42 6y ago
> Your solution to anti-competitive behavior is to complete eliminate the competition? You'll note that I wasn't focusing on anti-competitive behavior at all. I personally don't like sites that commingle 1st party retail with a 3rd party marketplace, because I think they're a bad user experience.