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I'm sorry - but is this a joke? Out of the 11 items they brought, $4873.92 overall, 8 of them, $4136.94, seems like totally unessential. I was expecting somet

by ashleyw 18y ago

I'm sorry - but is this a joke? Out of the 11 items they brought, $4873.92 overall, 8 of them, $4136.94, seems like totally unessential. I was expecting something where the bulk of the costs consisted of salaries for X days/weeks of work. But instead the bulk consisted of a trip to the WWDC, tons of ram, and icons? Maybe this wasn't the point of the post, but it seems like they totally missed the point of building an application...or at least the point of a "How we built X for $Y" post. But it seems every single one of those posts are totally inaccurate - one where they built one for $10k (but had 9 people working on the project!), one where they built a site for $8.75 (because that's the cost of the domain - nothing else included), and now this where they built one for $5000 (but included totally unnecessary items).

silencio 18y ago
Personally having been to WWDC a couple times now, I'd think that it wasn't all too inappropriate to include in the cost. It is a very useful resource for pretty much any Mac/iPhone developer, and I know many who consider the sessions, the networking, and sitting down with engineers to talk over things to be worth more than what they paid for the conference. And to be honest, I don't think they missed the point much by including the cost of icons as well. It's part of the application. Some may do it in-house, others will pay for work. To not count it as part of the app is fairly unreasonable...what else would you be doing if you needed icons? Making your own? (Not always the best idea, and for some will waste more time for an inferior set of icons vs. just buying a decent set.) And well...if the RAM helped them be more productive, then so be it. Maybe I would have had a separate "Optional costs, but ones we really thought were justified/important for what they gave us" category for those three that people seem to be taking the most offense from. Sure, you and some others may not be interested in spending $600 on icons or $3000 on a trip to WWDC because you don't need it for whatever reason, but many do. In fact, I'd say that would apply to a lot of apps on the app store now where I know/know of the developer(s), since I saw so many of them at WWDC with MacBook Airs. It may be inaccurate to you, but I don't think it's that far off. Everyone's different, and this is just one case I don't think is that unique.

by ashleyw 18y ago

silencio 18y ago

Personally having been to WWDC a couple times now, I'd think that it wasn't all too inappropriate to include in the cost. It is a very useful resource for pretty much any Mac/iPhone developer, and I know many who consider the sessions, the networking, and sitting down with engineers to talk over things to be worth more than what they paid for the conference. And to be honest, I don't think they missed the point much by including the cost of icons as well. It's part of the application. Some may do it in-house, others will pay for work. To not count it as part of the app is fairly unreasonable...what else would you be doing if you needed icons? Making your own? (Not always the best idea, and for some will waste more time for an inferior set of icons vs. just buying a decent set.) And well...if the RAM helped them be more productive, then so be it. Maybe I would have had a separate "Optional costs, but ones we really thought were justified/important for what they gave us" category for those three that people seem to be taking the most offense from. Sure, you and some others may not be interested in spending $600 on icons or $3000 on a trip to WWDC because you don't need it for whatever reason, but many do. In fact, I'd say that would apply to a lot of apps on the app store now where I know/know of the developer(s), since I saw so many of them at WWDC with MacBook Airs. It may be inaccurate to you, but I don't think it's that far off. Everyone's different, and this is just one case I don't think is that unique.