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If you're looking for keyboards, you may also be interested in keyboard layouts. I've been using Colemak for 5 years now, and I recommend everyone to try it out

If you're looking for keyboards, you may also be interested in keyboard layouts. I've been using Colemak for 5 years now, and I recommend everyone to try it out. https://colemak.com/ https://colemak.com/

Kaze404 6y ago
I tried learning Colemak at least 3 times now. What is your recommended approach? Grinding online exercises didn't really seem to do much for me.
- boterock 6y ago
  If you're using Windows, you can download the portable version that shows a small overlay in the screen. MacOS comes with a builtin keyboard viewer. I don't think grinding is a good approach, you need to learn it and make it part of your life, just like going through a dictionary won't teach you a language. Just keep in mind it will always be hard at first, and you won't see the benefits until you have more or less the same fluency as you had with qwerty. People sometimes think that it will make you faster, and it _can_ make you faster, but the real reward is being just as fast, but enjoying much more using the keyboard.
- ealhad 6y ago
  I learned it in 2016, never went back. I trained with keybr[0] ~1 hour a day for a week, then went cold turkey (with a printed Colemak layout beside my screen), and after another week or so I was at 40wpm (that is, faster than I had ever been before). It worked for me that way, doesn't mean it will for you. Two things to keep in mind : I wasn't a touch typist before, and I also had to learn all the symbols, coming from a French AZERTY layout. 0: https://www.keybr.com/ https://www.keybr.com/
- shaicoleman 6y ago
  I recommend playing 10 minutes a day TypeRacer. It makes the process of learning sustainable, painless, achievable and fun.
valarauko 6y ago
I've been leaning towards Colemak mod DH with the Moonlander. I'll be new to touch typing and ortholinear + split, so why not add Colemak to the mix? My concern is vim bindings, which is another thing on my to-list. The vim bindings designed with Qwerty in mind, and I'm unsure how Colemak messes with that.
- aayjaychan 6y ago
  It works pretty well for the most part, since vim verbs and nouns are kind of like acronyms. 'w' goes to next Word. 'b' goes Back a word, 'i' enables Insert mode, 'd' Deletes something. So as long as you know where the keys are, it's fine. What doesn't work is the default hjkl navigation. On Colemak these keys are on a rotated L shape around the right index finger, where j (down) is above k (up)... I remapped them based on their position. h: up, k: down, j: left, l: right. Still not as convenient as hjkl on qwerty, but at least it make sense. When I'm on Ergodox, I map arrow keys to the bottom row like those on Kinesis Advantage. Since they are close enough I use them instead of hjkl.

Kaze404 6y ago

I tried learning Colemak at least 3 times now. What is your recommended approach? Grinding online exercises didn't really seem to do much for me.

boterock 6y ago
If you're using Windows, you can download the portable version that shows a small overlay in the screen. MacOS comes with a builtin keyboard viewer. I don't think grinding is a good approach, you need to learn it and make it part of your life, just like going through a dictionary won't teach you a language. Just keep in mind it will always be hard at first, and you won't see the benefits until you have more or less the same fluency as you had with qwerty. People sometimes think that it will make you faster, and it _can_ make you faster, but the real reward is being just as fast, but enjoying much more using the keyboard.
ealhad 6y ago
I learned it in 2016, never went back. I trained with keybr[0] ~1 hour a day for a week, then went cold turkey (with a printed Colemak layout beside my screen), and after another week or so I was at 40wpm (that is, faster than I had ever been before). It worked for me that way, doesn't mean it will for you. Two things to keep in mind : I wasn't a touch typist before, and I also had to learn all the symbols, coming from a French AZERTY layout. 0: https://www.keybr.com/ https://www.keybr.com/
shaicoleman 6y ago
I recommend playing 10 minutes a day TypeRacer. It makes the process of learning sustainable, painless, achievable and fun.

valarauko 6y ago

I've been leaning towards Colemak mod DH with the Moonlander. I'll be new to touch typing and ortholinear + split, so why not add Colemak to the mix? My concern is vim bindings, which is another thing on my to-list. The vim bindings designed with Qwerty in mind, and I'm unsure how Colemak messes with that.

aayjaychan 6y ago
It works pretty well for the most part, since vim verbs and nouns are kind of like acronyms. 'w' goes to next Word. 'b' goes Back a word, 'i' enables Insert mode, 'd' Deletes something. So as long as you know where the keys are, it's fine. What doesn't work is the default hjkl navigation. On Colemak these keys are on a rotated L shape around the right index finger, where j (down) is above k (up)... I remapped them based on their position. h: up, k: down, j: left, l: right. Still not as convenient as hjkl on qwerty, but at least it make sense. When I'm on Ergodox, I map arrow keys to the bottom row like those on Kinesis Advantage. Since they are close enough I use them instead of hjkl.