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I’ve often wanted to try out Zig at work but the dependency on the latest LLVM meant doing that first. Building LLVM from scratch on our platform takes more res

I’ve often wanted to try out Zig at work but the dependency on the latest LLVM meant doing that first. Building LLVM from scratch on our platform takes more resources (including time) than I normally have available (LLDB needs like 6GB of RAM to link?) So, I welcome this news!

dnautics 6y ago
I thing zig ships with the relevant prebuilt llvm if you don't mind being tied to a release.
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AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
Zig releases are available in statically compiled form, no dependencies, no compilation necessary.
- butterisgood 6y ago
  Note I mentioned I wanted it for our platform... there is no pre-built Zig for it - despite being BSD based.
eggy 6y ago
Aside from using software that relies on LLVM, I am not at all familiar with its internals. A fellow on another forum was ranting against using LLVM as a backend for security reasons pointing out its sheer size and the fact that it is a "US controlled software stack" [1]. Don't get me wrong, I think he has a very fringe and suspicious outlook on LLVM and the US, but it is a big codebase that would be hard to audit for such things. Would Zig ever be fully independent and auditable by a small team when the break from LLVM is made? Just curious, and I would love input on the LLVM comspiracy topic. [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg09579.html https://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg095...
- higerordermap 6y ago
  90% of your computing stack is US controlled code. What's so different about LLVM LLVM monoculture is pretty bad though.. and its codebase quality is not very good either. But that's another issue.
Arelius 6y ago
Even if your build system isn't set up for it, you could potentially do a cross-compiled build for just LLVM your target architecture, then just rely on those binaries?
- butterisgood 6y ago
  That’s a really interesting idea... Got a new spare time project to try out!

dnautics 6y ago

I thing zig ships with the relevant prebuilt llvm if you don't mind being tied to a release.

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AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago

Zig releases are available in statically compiled form, no dependencies, no compilation necessary.

butterisgood 6y ago
Note I mentioned I wanted it for our platform... there is no pre-built Zig for it - despite being BSD based.

eggy 6y ago

Aside from using software that relies on LLVM, I am not at all familiar with its internals. A fellow on another forum was ranting against using LLVM as a backend for security reasons pointing out its sheer size and the fact that it is a "US controlled software stack" [1]. Don't get me wrong, I think he has a very fringe and suspicious outlook on LLVM and the US, but it is a big codebase that would be hard to audit for such things. Would Zig ever be fully independent and auditable by a small team when the break from LLVM is made? Just curious, and I would love input on the LLVM comspiracy topic. [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg09579.html https://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg095...

higerordermap 6y ago
90% of your computing stack is US controlled code. What's so different about LLVM LLVM monoculture is pretty bad though.. and its codebase quality is not very good either. But that's another issue.

Arelius 6y ago

Even if your build system isn't set up for it, you could potentially do a cross-compiled build for just LLVM your target architecture, then just rely on those binaries?

butterisgood 6y ago
That’s a really interesting idea... Got a new spare time project to try out!