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Welcome to the Red Scare 2.0, comrade. TikTok is under fire because it’s a piece of software from China. We’ve turned a blind eye to hardware security and the
by mechnesium 6y ago
Welcome to the Red Scare 2.0, comrade.
TikTok is under fire because it’s a piece of software from China. We’ve turned a blind eye to hardware security and the fact that the iPhone and nearly every other mainstream consumer device is manufactured in China and likely contain backdoors far more sinister than userland applications can muster. We can not and should not have such double standards when it comes to foreign policy.
The cherry on top, though, is that Western governments are far more sinister than China. Your local government has the capability to act upon the surveillance data that they collect on you, since you are in their jurisdiction. China, by comparison, can’t do anything to you except protect you from such local surveillance.
If the US dislikes China so much, place an embargo and see how long it takes for Uncle Sam’s evil empire to crumble.
- helloooooooo 6y agoWhat are you smoking? I want some of it.
- mechnesium 6y agoA hybrid strain of critical thinking and anti-nationalism.
- will4274 6y agoAnd genocide apologia.
- tylermenezes 6y ago> TikTok is under fire because it’s a piece of software from China. Don't forget: TikTok is under fire because Zuckerberg convinced Trump that it should be.
- ecmascript 6y ago> Western governments are far more sinister than China Oh really, I didn't know my country was doing things way worse then putting people in concentration camps, harvesting organs, putting people in prison because they had group sex, putting people in prison for years because they legally protested etc. Thanks for the information! But just for future discussions when I try to talk down these pesky people that try to harass the beautiful country of China, the perfect state that never does anything wrong, can you provide some examples on how the western democracies are worse? These horrible right wing extremists always seem to want some kind of source for the claims when it's so obvious to us comrades.
- mechnesium 6y agoClassic whataboutism. How are those “concentration camps” any different than ICE detention camps, where forced sterilization is occurring? Ask Julian Assange and Edward Snowden if they’d like to come to the United States for fair trials. Ask any victim of CIA torture or inhabitant of the countries where the US has installed a puppet dictator. Imagine sitting in your living room enjoying a cup of tea and being obliterated by collateral damage from a drone strike. I stand by my claim that the US is an evil empire with a global reach, far more dangerous than China. The United States is much more effective at human rights abuses because it hides them. Edit: Archived link to a Wikipedia article supporting the “puppet dictatorship” tidbit: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States.html https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1m... This article has since been censored from Wikipedia, for obvious reasons.
- will4274 6y ago> How are those “concentration camps” any different than ICE detention camps, where forced sterilization is occurring? Let's see.. in the US, force sterilization leads to an investigation and the relevant doctor being fired and punished. In China, it results in a promotion, because it's the official policy. Seems like a bit of a difference.
- NoSorryCannot 6y agoIt's not whataboutism if the premise made explicitly by you is to compare and contrast the "badness" of the west with China. And anyway, a claim that the west isn't worse than China does not entail a belief that the west hasn't done anything wrong or doesn't have objectionable administrative policies.
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- dang 6y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. It leads to discussions that are predictable, nasty, and dumb. We're hoping to avoid those here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- pmachinery 6y agoWelcome to Making America Great Again, buddy. The state that took on the British Empire, Geronimo, the Confederacy, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, the USSR, pissing its pants over a mindless phone app for 12 year olds.
- dang 6y agoPlease don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. It leads to discussions that are predictable, nasty, and dumb. We're hoping to avoid those here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- sbmthakur 6y agoWestern governments can be changed through elections. Is the same true for the Chinese government?
- mechnesium 6y agoI think it is just an illusion that Western governments can be changed. In reality, the deep state is an unstoppable machine underneath the facade of democracy. See perception management: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_management https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_management
- root_axis 6y ago> In reality, the deep state is an unstoppable machine underneath the facade of democracy Just depends on what you care about. For the majority of citizens democracy matters because different policies have an obvious impact on daily life.
- dang 6y agoPlease don't take HN threads into ideological or nationalistic flamewar. It leads to discussions that are predictable, nasty, and dumb. We're hoping to avoid those here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html