Thanks for the civil tone, and I'm sorry for phrasing certain things so strongly previously. > Specifically demanding that I provide proof that the events I'm

Thanks for the civil tone, and I'm sorry for phrasing certain things so strongly previously. > Specifically demanding that I provide proof that the events I'm concerned about have in fact happened is a great example of sealioning. Ok, I get your point about sealioning now, but I wasn't trying to say you need to prove this or else your opinion is invalid. I know it's impossible to prove right now, and it doesn't invalidate your opinion. I'm only saying you need to prove this or else it's not a justification for enacting real world consequences for people. Because that's very different from an opinion, and it also works that way in a sane legal system. > Eich's side fights dirty, so is it surprising that the other side thinks it has to as well? I think here is the core of our disagreement. I think the other side is fighting even more dirty because they're circumventing the legal system. No one can shut them down, or even keep them in check. You don't know what minor things people are going to get lynched for if this trend continues. And the whole fight is pointless in the first place, because so far our legal system isn't corrupt enough to not reject something like Proposition 8. Now if Prop 8 went through, you could make a case for cancel culture. But as a preemptive strike? Pointless, insane, and sure to worsen the situation. Not to mention people lose their careers. They're still people after all, and if you had grown up in a different environment you might even think like them. > Being "open-minded" enough to tolerate this point of view appears to be suicidal, because any sort of atrocity can be justified the same way. As soon as you start saying "we're so morally superior and the other side is so hateful that they cannot ever be talked to and extreme measures are appropriate" you can also justify any sort of atrocity. When you try to have a dialogue, you at least have a chance for everyone to find and agree on the truth. It's fucked up that we are no longer having that. Seeing my fellow college students walking into panel discussions with megaphones and just chanting everyone and everything down makes my stomach turn, and cancel culture rests on similar principles. I don't know how to fix politics, and I hate to sound like some hippie, but more hate towards each other is obviously not the answer.