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Employer payment structure is biology?
by SiempreViernes 6y ago
Employer payment structure is biology?
- fastball 6y agoThis has nothing to do with payment. People work jobs in society. Even if you don't live in a society where you get paid a wage for working that job, time still needs to be taken off work to have a baby. It's more economically efficient (it takes time and effort to replace the work that was being done by someone, regardless of how employers are remunerating employees) to extend that person's leave than to arrange for two separate leaves for two separate jobs when there was no necessity for the second person to take time off in the first place.
- jahaja 6y agoWhy do you think this is about economical efficiency?
- fastball 6y agoBecause that's reality? It's emergent behavior based off efficiency and the harsh realities of childbirth (i.e. men and women have very different parts to play in childbirth). It's not sexism.
- jahaja 6y agoWhat's your point? You said: > It's more economically efficient [..] to extend that person's leave than to arrange for two separate leaves This isn't about what's economically efficient, it's about what certain societies think is well spent money.
- fastball 6y agoMy point is literally the first sentence of my comment. > It's not "structurally sexism", it's biology.
- jahaja 6y agoThere's nothing biological in denying fathers parental leave even if the mother takes the first months of it. And it is sexism to ignore the effects to womens careers if this is not shared.
- fastball 6y agoNobody is denying anything. Paternal leave is a privilege, not a right. Not doing everything you possibly can to make everyone equal when it comes to sex is not sexism.
- jahaja 6y ago> Paternal leave is a privilege, not a right. So what? > Not doing everything you possibly can to make everyone equal when it comes to sex is not sexism. If something inherent in our society - having children - causes one gender to have unequal opportunity it's sexist to be against counter-measures due to some sort of bullshit "biology" argument.
- fastball 6y agoI think we’re going to have to agree to disagree. You can be not sexist without supporting every possible measure to attempt to achieve a perfectly egalitarian society.
- SiempreViernes 6y agoSure, though you use an inherently sex-centered argument to oppose it so I'm not sure why you try to fight the sexist label?
- fastball 6y agoWhat exactly am I opposing?
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