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In that ranking India is only 0.01 points ahead of pakistan. Does not pass my smell test about its methodology to be honest.

by iamsb 6y ago

rishav_sharan 6y ago
As an Indian, knowing the journalistic persecution and state of free speech in India, I wouldn't be surprised if India is tied up with Pakistan. Here is some stuff to read up on this http://www.rightsrisks.org/banner/india-medias-crackdown-during-covid-19-lockdown-2/ http://www.rightsrisks.org/banner/india-medias-crackdown-dur... http://attacksonrtiusers.org/ http://attacksonrtiusers.org/
- _8gfe 6y ago
  This is totally wrong. We have free speech but the major problem is that poor and educated aren't ready for this level of openness in our society.
  - quirmian 6y ago
    And this statement here (one I’ve heard before from others as well) demonstrates one of our biggest problems (speaking as someone who grew up in India) - and makes my blood boil. Without respect for the individual and individual rights, Indian society will not progress. Sitting on your high horse and making judgements about how the poor and uneducated (or any other group) aren’t ready for free speech is not the way.
  - rishav_sharan 6y ago
    Here's something fresh for today; Amnesty India quits India operations due to govt' reprisals. https://amnesty.org.in/news-update/amnesty-international-india-halts-its-work-on-upholding-human-rights-in-india-due-to-reprisal-from-government-of-india-2/ https://amnesty.org.in/news-update/amnesty-international-ind... Reality, I fear is fairly dystopic and I can keep posting such news articles all day which show India's slide into Authoritarianism.
statictype 6y ago
Sri Lanka ranking well ahead of India is an even bigger red flag. Journalists and editors have been openly killed in Sri Lanka for opinion pieces that dared to tarnish the government.
- nacs 6y ago
  Agreed but it is ranked 127 so it’s towards the bottom as it should be.
yorwba 6y ago
The difference is actually 0.19 points. You can read their description of press freedom in India https://rsf.org/en/india https://rsf.org/en/india or of Pakistan https://rsf.org/en/pakistan https://rsf.org/en/pakistan and neither sounds that great.
- justaguyhere 6y ago
  I constantly see Norway/Denmark/Sweden/Switzerland at the top of good lists, like this rsf one. Never been there, but a bit jealous (and happy for those living there) that other countries that have insanely more resources at their disposal are unable to copy these tiny countries.
  - splintercell 6y ago
    Ar a private citizen do you believe that you're going to be unmolested by the US govt over your speech (and let's say there are a 100 statements test which include all kinds of speech) vs Norwegian govt?

In that ranking India is only 0.01 points ahead of pakistan. Does not pass my smell test about its methodology to be honest.

by iamsb 6y ago

In that ranking India is only 0.01 points ahead of pakistan. Does not pass my smell test about its methodology to be honest.

rishav_sharan 6y ago

As an Indian, knowing the journalistic persecution and state of free speech in India, I wouldn't be surprised if India is tied up with Pakistan. Here is some stuff to read up on this http://www.rightsrisks.org/banner/india-medias-crackdown-during-covid-19-lockdown-2/ http://www.rightsrisks.org/banner/india-medias-crackdown-dur... http://attacksonrtiusers.org/ http://attacksonrtiusers.org/

_8gfe 6y ago
This is totally wrong. We have free speech but the major problem is that poor and educated aren't ready for this level of openness in our society.
- quirmian 6y ago
  And this statement here (one I’ve heard before from others as well) demonstrates one of our biggest problems (speaking as someone who grew up in India) - and makes my blood boil. Without respect for the individual and individual rights, Indian society will not progress. Sitting on your high horse and making judgements about how the poor and uneducated (or any other group) aren’t ready for free speech is not the way.
- rishav_sharan 6y ago
  Here's something fresh for today; Amnesty India quits India operations due to govt' reprisals. https://amnesty.org.in/news-update/amnesty-international-india-halts-its-work-on-upholding-human-rights-in-india-due-to-reprisal-from-government-of-india-2/ https://amnesty.org.in/news-update/amnesty-international-ind... Reality, I fear is fairly dystopic and I can keep posting such news articles all day which show India's slide into Authoritarianism.

statictype 6y ago

Sri Lanka ranking well ahead of India is an even bigger red flag. Journalists and editors have been openly killed in Sri Lanka for opinion pieces that dared to tarnish the government.

nacs 6y ago
Agreed but it is ranked 127 so it’s towards the bottom as it should be.

yorwba 6y ago

The difference is actually 0.19 points. You can read their description of press freedom in India https://rsf.org/en/india https://rsf.org/en/india or of Pakistan https://rsf.org/en/pakistan https://rsf.org/en/pakistan and neither sounds that great.

justaguyhere 6y ago
I constantly see Norway/Denmark/Sweden/Switzerland at the top of good lists, like this rsf one. Never been there, but a bit jealous (and happy for those living there) that other countries that have insanely more resources at their disposal are unable to copy these tiny countries.
- splintercell 6y ago
  Ar a private citizen do you believe that you're going to be unmolested by the US govt over your speech (and let's say there are a 100 statements test which include all kinds of speech) vs Norwegian govt?