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Deutsches Museum has a great collection of computers, including a Cray 1 and an original Apple 1 kit donated by Steve Jobs. However, most of the exhibitions in

by brodo 6y ago

Deutsches Museum has a great collection of computers, including a Cray 1 and an original Apple 1 kit donated by Steve Jobs. However, most of the exhibitions in Deutsches Musem - including the computer science one - seem to be stuck in the 90's.

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hans_castorp 6y ago
> seem to be stuck in the 90's. Not sure if you would like to see newer machines or older ones. If you are complaining about the missing old ones, then it's not true. The Deutsches Museum in Munich as a Z3 and a Z4: https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/informatik/universalrechner/ https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/... It also has a "Siemens 2002" from 1960. https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/informatik/ https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/... And a UNIVAC I (IBM) from 1956: https://www.deutsches-museum.de/typo3temp/pics/c0ba1ee858.jpg https://www.deutsches-museum.de/typo3temp/pics/c0ba1ee858.jp...
- detaro 6y ago
  I think they mean "stuck in the 90s" in the way of presentation and exhibition design, which I'd tend to agree with. They have a lot of cool artifacts, and I can totally see why older relatives raved about it, but to me it felt stuffy and drab compared to other museums when I was there a few years ago.
  - brodo 6y ago
    Exactly. Stuffy and drab is a great way to describe it. I was reminded of my school days a lot when I was there. There is a interactive game in the astronomy section which belongs in a museum for other reasons then it is.
- johndoe0815 6y ago
  The Z3 in the Deutsches Museum is only a replica, but one built by Konrad Zuse and his company in the 1960s. The original machine was destroyed in WW2. The Z4, however, is the one and only original machine. If you´re interested in Zuse history, there´s a great exhibition of Zuse machines at the Huenfeld museum (the town where Zuse rebuilt his company after WW2): https://www.zuse-museum-huenfeld.de/ https://www.zuse-museum-huenfeld.de/ and the computing centre at Erlangen University (FAU) has restored their Z23 to working condition some years ago: https://www.video.uni-erlangen.de/search/term.html?q=Z23 https://www.video.uni-erlangen.de/search/term.html?q=Z23 The Technikmuseum in Berlin also has a Z3 replica built by Horst Zuse (Konrad Zuse´s son) and his students: http://z3-computer.de/ http://z3-computer.de/ Most of the linked pages are in German, the Erlangen page has some interesting videos.
DocTomoe 6y ago
The Deutsches Museum is currently in a renovating and reconfiguration phase, has been for four years, and will be for at least another year. Things are about to change. I can but hope it won't change too much. I love the exhibit on nuclear power (with a life-sized cutaway of a containment vessel), the air&space exhibit (which includes a V2, and a piece of the moon) and the Newtonian physics exhibit.
- tannhaeuser 6y ago
  I love their underground rebuild of a coal mine and their dated Faraday cage show, with humans exposed to high voltage and engineers in white knits turning keys.

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hans_castorp 6y ago

> seem to be stuck in the 90's. Not sure if you would like to see newer machines or older ones. If you are complaining about the missing old ones, then it's not true. The Deutsches Museum in Munich as a Z3 and a Z4: https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/informatik/universalrechner/ https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/... It also has a "Siemens 2002" from 1960. https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/informatik/ https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/... And a UNIVAC I (IBM) from 1956: https://www.deutsches-museum.de/typo3temp/pics/c0ba1ee858.jpg https://www.deutsches-museum.de/typo3temp/pics/c0ba1ee858.jp...

detaro 6y ago
I think they mean "stuck in the 90s" in the way of presentation and exhibition design, which I'd tend to agree with. They have a lot of cool artifacts, and I can totally see why older relatives raved about it, but to me it felt stuffy and drab compared to other museums when I was there a few years ago.
- brodo 6y ago
  Exactly. Stuffy and drab is a great way to describe it. I was reminded of my school days a lot when I was there. There is a interactive game in the astronomy section which belongs in a museum for other reasons then it is.
johndoe0815 6y ago
The Z3 in the Deutsches Museum is only a replica, but one built by Konrad Zuse and his company in the 1960s. The original machine was destroyed in WW2. The Z4, however, is the one and only original machine. If you´re interested in Zuse history, there´s a great exhibition of Zuse machines at the Huenfeld museum (the town where Zuse rebuilt his company after WW2): https://www.zuse-museum-huenfeld.de/ https://www.zuse-museum-huenfeld.de/ and the computing centre at Erlangen University (FAU) has restored their Z23 to working condition some years ago: https://www.video.uni-erlangen.de/search/term.html?q=Z23 https://www.video.uni-erlangen.de/search/term.html?q=Z23 The Technikmuseum in Berlin also has a Z3 replica built by Horst Zuse (Konrad Zuse´s son) and his students: http://z3-computer.de/ http://z3-computer.de/ Most of the linked pages are in German, the Erlangen page has some interesting videos.

DocTomoe 6y ago

The Deutsches Museum is currently in a renovating and reconfiguration phase, has been for four years, and will be for at least another year. Things are about to change. I can but hope it won't change too much. I love the exhibit on nuclear power (with a life-sized cutaway of a containment vessel), the air&space exhibit (which includes a V2, and a piece of the moon) and the Newtonian physics exhibit.

tannhaeuser 6y ago
I love their underground rebuild of a coal mine and their dated Faraday cage show, with humans exposed to high voltage and engineers in white knits turning keys.