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Not sure why you’ve been downvoted, you’re absolutely correct.
by exdsq 6y ago
Not sure why you’ve been downvoted, you’re absolutely correct.
- hengri 6y agoI'm guessing it's a uncomfortable fact for the hackernews crowd who seem to travel a lot and also claim to care for climate change.
- dheera 6y agoYep, I've noticed that in the past year on HN thre are a lot of people who would rather downvote than face truth. I wonder whether COVID brought in a bunch of low quality participants. Separately though I've noticed lately that pretty much all my comments get downvoted first; some disappear in the process, others get salvaged by upvotes. I wonder whether someone is running a downvote bot on my handle.
- onlydeadheroes 6y agoI noticed this a few months back, back when someone kept posting anti-meritocracy articles hoping for a thread that wasn't a train wreck. I started testing their algorithms by repeatedly posting the exact same comment and observing what happened. This triggered changes to the algo itself, and eventually it moved from downvoting to flagging, or maybe a human supervisor did. This was across multiple accounts and many weeks of posts. Eventually dang told me to stop. My current account name is a tribute to this.
- dang 6y agoWould you please stop posting these off-topic meta complaints? They're pure noise, you've unfortunately been doing it a lot lately, and they're against the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Your other comments are great, so it would be nice if you would fix this.
- onlydeadheroes 6y agopure noise? because you are always right, of course.
- DenisM 6y agoTransatlantic flight generates under 1000kg of CO2 per passenger. Cars generate 0.12kg per km. A short commute is 30 km per day, so about a 1000 kg per year - a wash. A longer commute will generate more, being stuck in traffic will generate more, building new roads will generate more. A flight that is not cross-Atlantic will generate much less. It’s not clear which way the balance will tilt, but you can’t just make blanket statement that planes will be worse than cars - you have to show your math.
- dheera 6y agoThe average american commute is about 15 miles [0] which is 24 km. A round trip from JFK to FRA emits about 0.91 t (910 kg) CO2 but if you account for radiative forcing [1] it is equivalent to 1.62 t (1620 kg) [2]. That's not to mention multiplying all these figures by 6 (for every 2 months), so that's 9720 kg. I don't think it's a wash. [0] https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1006/ML100621425.pdf https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1006/ML100621425.pdf [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_forcing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_forcing [2] https://calculator.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx https://calculator.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx
- DenisM 6y ago1. 15 miles one way. 30miles x 1.6km x 1.12kg/km x 250 days = 1440 kg 2. Few people will move form US to Germany. It's more likely someone will move e.g. from Portland to San Diego. 275kg roundtrip, 550kg adjusted for radiative forcing. So if you fly 3 times per year it's a wash, if you fly 6 times a year it's double the CO2 emission.
- dang 6y agoWould you please not break the site guidelines like this? If you read them to the end, you'll notice that they explicitly ask you not to post this kind of comment. One reason is that users frequently give corrective upvotes (https://hn.algolia.com/?query=corrective%20upvote&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=corrective%20upvote&dateRange=...), which leaves a complaint like this dangling as uncollected garbage. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html