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> catching your VP for a quick 2 min resolution while he is walking to the cafe to quickly grab his lunch between his back-to-back-to-back meetings Wouldn't th

> catching your VP for a quick 2 min resolution while he is walking to the cafe to quickly grab his lunch between his back-to-back-to-back meetings Wouldn't this particular scenario be made more effective and efficient with asynchronous communication? > This is particularly true when you become more senior and replicating that over Zoom is nearly impossible. Most office jobs are not senior roles. In fact, the more senior a person is, the less office face-time they seem to have. > There are things you simply don't want to put in writing or say over Zoom which are most certainly monitored by the company. Phone call? Meet at a cafe? > And if there are some colleagues who are in office and some who are remote, the ones in office have a massive advantage when everything else is the same. I think people should be allowed to play the game as they see fit. If my plans involve a lot of office plays and social maneuvering, of course I'd prefer to be at the office, and I should be allowed to do that alongside the other people that want to engage in such activities. If my plans are to be a reliable worker with no desire to shuffle on the ladder, I might as well enjoy a quiet stay-at-home life with occasional office visits when it suits the projects I am working on, my team members and / or myself.

RestlessMind 6y ago
> Wouldn't this particular scenario be made more effective and efficient with asynchronous communication? No way. My VP doesn't have time to read and respond to my carefully crafted email. He might be having 1500+ unread emails. Same with DMs. > In fact, the more senior a person is, the less office face-time they seem to have. This is so contrary to what I have seen. Most senior people (including ICs) are busier in meetings compared to more junior guys. > Phone call? Meh. No body language, no eye contact, less energy in the conversation. > Meet at a cafe? Sure. And once you reach middle management, you will have so many of these cafe meetings that going to the office would be scalable, where you meet everyone. Once a few people do that, everyone who needs these cafe meetings will start doing it because the office is where everyone is. > I think people should be allowed to play the game as they see fit. I mostly agree on this with one caveat. If your remote employees are going to suffer in their career trajectories because of an apparent disadvantage, a company has to be super careful that it won't become a New York Times front page story. Imagine if Microsoft allowed this and a majority of their remote employees are women and a majority of their remote employees are getting promoted at a slower rate than in-office people. It will be an unnecessary headache. Better to nip the problem in the bud.

RestlessMind 6y ago

> Wouldn't this particular scenario be made more effective and efficient with asynchronous communication? No way. My VP doesn't have time to read and respond to my carefully crafted email. He might be having 1500+ unread emails. Same with DMs. > In fact, the more senior a person is, the less office face-time they seem to have. This is so contrary to what I have seen. Most senior people (including ICs) are busier in meetings compared to more junior guys. > Phone call? Meh. No body language, no eye contact, less energy in the conversation. > Meet at a cafe? Sure. And once you reach middle management, you will have so many of these cafe meetings that going to the office would be scalable, where you meet everyone. Once a few people do that, everyone who needs these cafe meetings will start doing it because the office is where everyone is. > I think people should be allowed to play the game as they see fit. I mostly agree on this with one caveat. If your remote employees are going to suffer in their career trajectories because of an apparent disadvantage, a company has to be super careful that it won't become a New York Times front page story. Imagine if Microsoft allowed this and a majority of their remote employees are women and a majority of their remote employees are getting promoted at a slower rate than in-office people. It will be an unnecessary headache. Better to nip the problem in the bud.