> Try to teach the average Java programmer (I'm not saying I'm a better programmer, Iḿ just intending it as "they are trying to get through the day with the too

> Try to teach the average Java programmer (I'm not saying I'm a better programmer, Iḿ just intending it as "they are trying to get through the day with the tool they already know") how to effectively use types "like in Haskell" and they will be confused at best. I have had the opportunity to teach java programmers the basics of Haskell, and indeed, it was not great. Trying to tell java programmers to write haskell-flavored java is not a great idea. On the other hand, I have also had the opportunity to work with C#, JS, C programmers that were taught to work in a haskell codebase, and the result was much better. I guess using a language explicitly made for this helps a lot.