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Musk is delusional with his timeframes, but I think he's sincere about his aspirations, and has a track record of eventually delivering. Milton (Nikola) just f

by zwily 6y ago

Musk is delusional with his timeframes, but I think he's sincere about his aspirations, and has a track record of eventually delivering. Milton (Nikola) just flat out made stuff up all the time that had no basis in truth.

cma 6y ago
Musk demoed non-functional solar shingles on the set of Desperate Housewives and basically got a billion in solar subsidies from New York and never delivered. The shingles are coming from China. Near a billion in California subsidies for fast battery swapping, and they just did one or a few demo stations then canceled it. It probably just used some hacked factory equipment and would never work with normal wear and tear on the cars.
- Robotbeat 6y ago
  Tesla has delivered for New York what was contracted in terms of jobs and the factory is used for making solar panels. If they hadn't, they would have had to pay a penalty.
  - cma 6y ago
    I believe they weren't on track to meet the goal before coronavirus and then got an extension ostensibly because of coronavirus (in reality it was more likely for the governor to save face): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_New_York#Jobs_commitment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_New_York#Jobs_commitment
    - bryanlarsen 6y ago
      According to your link they were over their commitment in early 2020.
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      - cma 6y ago
        I didn't realize that. It looks like there was a big hiring rush in January/February to meet the deadline: https://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2020/01/30/tesla-factory-buffalo-hiring-state-penalties.html https://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2020/01/30/tesla-fac...
        bryanlarsen 6y ago
        They also did a nationwide hiring blitz of installers, so it's also possible that the hiring rush was so they could build product for sale and had little to do with the deadline. They only announced that V3 product development was complete in late 2019, so ramping up it's production also happened around this time.

by zwily 6y ago

cma 6y ago

Musk demoed non-functional solar shingles on the set of Desperate Housewives and basically got a billion in solar subsidies from New York and never delivered. The shingles are coming from China. Near a billion in California subsidies for fast battery swapping, and they just did one or a few demo stations then canceled it. It probably just used some hacked factory equipment and would never work with normal wear and tear on the cars.

Robotbeat 6y ago
Tesla has delivered for New York what was contracted in terms of jobs and the factory is used for making solar panels. If they hadn't, they would have had to pay a penalty.
- cma 6y ago
  I believe they weren't on track to meet the goal before coronavirus and then got an extension ostensibly because of coronavirus (in reality it was more likely for the governor to save face): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_New_York#Jobs_commitment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_New_York#Jobs_commitment
  - bryanlarsen 6y ago
    According to your link they were over their commitment in early 2020.
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - cma 6y ago
      I didn't realize that. It looks like there was a big hiring rush in January/February to meet the deadline: https://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2020/01/30/tesla-factory-buffalo-hiring-state-penalties.html https://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2020/01/30/tesla-fac...
      - bryanlarsen 6y ago
        They also did a nationwide hiring blitz of installers, so it's also possible that the hiring rush was so they could build product for sale and had little to do with the deadline. They only announced that V3 product development was complete in late 2019, so ramping up it's production also happened around this time.